LATAM Moving to Terminal 4 at JFK. BYE BYE Flagship Lounge
Jan 16, 2020, 10:53 pm
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LATAM Moving to Terminal 4 at JFK. BYE BYE Flagship Lounge
Well the reality of the merger is hitting and boy oh boy what a horrible move. LATAM effective FEB 1st is moving from Terminal 8 to Terminal 4. Bye Bye American Flagship, hello crappy Delta Lounge. T4 is over crowded as is. So is their lounge. And considering LATAM doesn't participate in TSA that will still remain an issue at a more crowded terminal. At least at T8 you only had LATAM customers and the one CX flight occupying late at night.
Delta points suck for value, AVIOS certainly crushes it even it's its availability isn't great. The reality is sinking in...
Wonder if one can still use the Flagship Lounge until LATAM actually leaves OW .
https://onemileatatime.com/latam-jfk-terminal-change/
Delta points suck for value, AVIOS certainly crushes it even it's its availability isn't great. The reality is sinking in...
Wonder if one can still use the Flagship Lounge until LATAM actually leaves OW .
https://onemileatatime.com/latam-jfk-terminal-change/
Jan 17, 2020, 1:36 pm
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Absolute disaster indeed 
Losing American Flagship lounge to Delta SkyClub is quite a significant downgrade. Although it might be technically possible to use the Flagship one in Terminal 8, I don't think it's a good idea. Getting through security in T8, visiting the lounge, then Airtran to T4, another security check, and good luck if your plane is located at one of those the most remote B-gates (more than a 1 km walk). I am also wondering how LATAM will be fulfilling their OW commitments when it comes to OW elites (Emerald and Sapphire) when it comes to lounge access (well, it not gonna last long, but still) ?
Losing American Flagship lounge to Delta SkyClub is quite a significant downgrade. Although it might be technically possible to use the Flagship one in Terminal 8, I don't think it's a good idea. Getting through security in T8, visiting the lounge, then Airtran to T4, another security check, and good luck if your plane is located at one of those the most remote B-gates (more than a 1 km walk). I am also wondering how LATAM will be fulfilling their OW commitments when it comes to OW elites (Emerald and Sapphire) when it comes to lounge access (well, it not gonna last long, but still) ?
Jan 17, 2020, 10:04 pm
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Absolute disaster indeed Losing American Flagship lounge to Delta SkyClub is quite a significant downgrade. Although it might be technically possible to use the Flagship one in Terminal 8, I don't think it's a good idea. Getting through security in T8, visiting the lounge, then Airtran to T4, another security check, and good luck if your plane is located at one of those the most remote B-gates (more than a 1 km walk). I am also wondering how LATAM will be fulfilling their OW commitments when it comes to OW elites (Emerald and Sapphire) when it comes to lounge access (well, it not gonna last long, but still) ?
Losing American Flagship lounge to Delta SkyClub is quite a significant downgrade. Although it might be technically possible to use the Flagship one in Terminal 8, I don't think it's a good idea. Getting through security in T8, visiting the lounge, then Airtran to T4, another security check, and good luck if your plane is located at one of those the most remote B-gates (more than a 1 km walk). I am also wondering how LATAM will be fulfilling their OW commitments when it comes to OW elites (Emerald and Sapphire) when it comes to lounge access (well, it not gonna last long, but still) ?
Jan 18, 2020, 7:03 am
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For LATAM elites it should be SkyClub according to LATAM's email they recently sent around: "Además, si eres socio de las categorías Black Signature, Black o Platinum o si viajas en la cabina Premium Business, podrás acceder al Salón VIP de Delta ubicado en el mismo terminal." . As for the OW ones - it's not clear yet. Anyone knows ?
Jan 21, 2020, 10:33 am
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I submitted a complaint, not that it will do anything but I suggested they should contract a better lounge than SkyClub.
Jan 21, 2020, 10:52 am
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From the company that didn't seem to care that one of its principal hubs (LIM) didn't have lounge access for how long ... (a couple of years?) I'd expect that your complaint will be given very special attention!
Jan 21, 2020, 10:55 am
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As a sidenote : With CDMX airport being cancelled SA investors are hungry I think there actually might be some movement on this now.
Jan 21, 2020, 4:16 pm
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LIM still does not have the new terminal. They are about to start building it, but only after the new runway is done (somewhere mid 2021). The new terminal is expected to open in 2023, and the full renewed airport (1 new terminal + 2 parallel operating runways + business center + old terminal converted into logistics area) to be done at the end of 2024 or beginning of 2025. But these are estimates and the project is already 5 years overdue.
Jan 28, 2020, 10:14 am
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Yes and also Virgin's Lounge. It's not clear if Oneworld passengers on Economy (flying on LATAM) will be able to use them but according to the alliance agreements they should, unless they get a waiver from Oneworld
Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 pm
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I don't imagine that access would be extended to LATAM passengers, since while both LATAM and VS have agreements with Delta, that doesn't effectively create an agreement between VS and LATAM.
Jan 28, 2020, 9:37 pm
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Is there official word that LATAM passengers would have access to the Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse? I would imagine access would be limited to the Delta SkyClub. DL and VS have an agreement in place for their passengers (DL elites and J passengers flying to the UK ONLY can use the Clubhouse).
I don't imagine that access would be extended to LATAM passengers, since while both LATAM and VS have agreements with Delta, that doesn't effectively create an agreement between VS and LATAM.
I don't imagine that access would be extended to LATAM passengers, since while both LATAM and VS have agreements with Delta, that doesn't effectively create an agreement between VS and LATAM.
Jan 29, 2020, 8:15 am
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Jan 31, 2020, 3:14 pm
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There is a LATAM VIP Lounge at MIA.