Kim Seng Lim

I travelled to Last Vegas and visit about 10 casinos included Mandalay Bay; I was surprised that after the gun shooting case, all customers could still bring their bags/luggages into the casino/hotel room without any scanning or checking. I understand that guns may be allowed to carry in USA and probably this is the reason why there is no checking being done. But what if a person does not only carry gun, but also bring other more dangerous things or weapon. And how can we check and control if the person does not have the permit to carry gun, but can freely bring gun inside the casino?
I think that solving this problem is actually simple and the cost is not high. Just like casinos in other countries, they have security at the entrance, and all people who want to enter the casino will pass through the detector machine or door. This way may not prevent the bad event 100% but I guess if the casino has this security checking before, the gun shooting case at Mandalay Bay Casino may not happen. Anyhow, it is not too late to start this plan (remember there was a news that ISIS will target Las Vegas and maybe they already noticed this security problem?)
Wish somebody can bring this to the Las Vegas management.

Loren Pechtel

The security measures to keep things out would be quite intrusive. We also have a lot of proprietary stuff showing up in hotel rooms due to trade shows.

ijgordon

Yeah, it's just not practical. I assume they're working on other security measures that aren't as visible to the public.

garykung

You are definitely living in a fantasy world.

It may sound more difficult than you think. There are too many complications.

The majority of hotel guests are from out of state, which air is the primary source of transportation. It is unlikely for a hotel guest to bring a gun into a hotel.

It is actually more complicated than you think and the cost is high.

FWIW - casinos in other countries rarely have armed guards as well, unlike Las Vegas.

It was not my intent to upset anyone.

It was a planned attack by a troubled perpetrator. Hypothetically speaking, if Mandalay Bay had security checks, the shooting would still happen. The perpetrator simply would not assault from the hotel room in the Mandalay Bay.

ucfjoe

as you said you went to 10 casinos, you want to go through a checkpoint 10 or more times? Look at all the holes that presents. Disney struggles with it (it's seriously a joke) and they have one checkpoint. I'm still dramatically more at risk to die in a Uber crash between airport and hotel. I'll take those odds.

Hipplewm

Nevada has very few restrictions on guns. I conceal carry in Las Vegas all the time, including in my room and in casinos. FWIW, I don't drink and i don't think anyone who carries should. I was in LV the week after the tragedy and that didn't deter me at all.

Casinos can NOT stop you from carrying in their casino UNLESS they catch you printing or brandishing. (Printing is if they can see the outline of the gun thru your clothes, Brandishing is if they actually can see a part of the gun sticking out below your over shirt or something) At that point they can ask you to leave and if you don't go, they call the cops etc - you are charged with trespassing.

corky

Are you joking? Vegas would come to a complete halt if they had to implement that. People often walk through several hotels without even going outside. Can you imagine security at each entrance to a casino? There is absolutely no way that would work--a single file of people going through metal detectors or inspecting everyone's luggage. I go to Vegas all the time and that would certainly deter me.
This was one incident by a lunatic that could happen in any hotel or tall building in the world. Yes, it was one of the most horrific events of it's kind but that doesn't mean they should shut down the city. What's next---take out shoes off like the TSA?

gengar

Fearmongering at its worst. This type of terrorism could happen anywhere there are tall buildings and a large crowd. The OP's absurdly vague "more dangerous things" could present a threat virtually anywhere.

If you are that risk averse to a single terrorist incident, I shudder to think what other precautions you take on a day-to-day basis that prevent you from living and experiencing life.

Loren Pechtel

I think it's more of an issue here than most places--this is a city set up to handle large crowds so event organizers tend to come here for big events.

corky

I can think of many cities that this statement applies to.....is every hotel going to require metal detectors for guests and their luggage?

gengar

Route 91 Music Festival estimated attendance was 22,000 this year - not much more than a typical NBA game. And just for perspective, I don't think Route 91 even makes the top 25 music festivals by attendance, and that's just in the US.

The metric can't simply be 'tall buildings' and 'large crowds'. Las Vegas is just one of a plethora of cities that have those.

Loren Pechtel

And Route 91 isn't exactly a big event here. (Big is EDC at ~400k.)

However, that NBA game isn't overlooked by buildings. Neither are most stadiums--they're in a big area of parking.

The ratio of passengers to parking spaces at the airport here is very out of whack because we have so many more visitors for our size than most places.

gengar

That was exactly my point, hence mentioning that the festival probably isn't even in the Top 25 by attendance in the US (although note that the 22k figure I provided is daily, with EDC daily attendance averaging around 135k over the 3-day event).

The simple reality is that there are many far bigger music festivals in many other cities all over the world. That's why OP is fearmongering, because "large crowds" and "tall buildings" are a meaningless metric.

greggarious

It is legal and common to have a firearm in your room. Many people bring firearms to Nevada to go shooting. One convention I attend has an event where people go out into the desert to go shooting.

Loren Pechtel

I'm not aware of that one in particular but it doesn't surprise me.

A quick Google turned up a gun show that was listed as being in one of the casinos--but a check of their website showed another address. I'm guessing they were moved as a result of the Route 91 shooting. We also have a 60,000+ trade show with a major firearms component.

(The difference is a gun show is aimed at individuals interested in firearms and firearms-related products, a trade show is aimed at corporate (and in this case law enforcement) buyers.)