EU antitrust outcome on KL/AF
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I am no expert on this but from my viewpoint I see no problems with a partnership or merger. BA and LH with their partners are in a much stronger position and I see no AF/KL monopoly in any market.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Eidetic:
Having searched the forum for this topic without success, I pose the question, will the EU antitrust czar approve a KL/AF "merger"?</font>
Having searched the forum for this topic without success, I pose the question, will the EU antitrust czar approve a KL/AF "merger"?</font>
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daved, it's not the the EU has extraterratorial rights over US mergers, it's that most multinational mergers (whether of US or non-US companies) don't work unless the EU nations are included ... the "merger" would produce 3 companies: A/B merged outsdie the EU, A in the EU, and B in the EU = a nightmare.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Eidetic:
daved, it's not the the EU has extraterratorial rights over US mergers, it's that most multinational mergers (whether of US or non-US companies) don't work unless the EU nations are included ... the "merger" would produce 3 companies: A/B merged outsdie the EU, A in the EU, and B in the EU = a nightmare.</font>
daved, it's not the the EU has extraterratorial rights over US mergers, it's that most multinational mergers (whether of US or non-US companies) don't work unless the EU nations are included ... the "merger" would produce 3 companies: A/B merged outsdie the EU, A in the EU, and B in the EU = a nightmare.</font>
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ananthur, companies basically don't like criminal indictments ... bad press, poor accommodations, no pension plan, etc. There is also civil litigation. IOW, antitrust violations carry both criminal and civil penalties. A/B does business in the EU, the directors and officers get indicted and could receive jail time, criminal fines, and civil damages. Directors and officers are rather averse to these risks.
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Further to the mergers issue - usually it's the case that the EU (or the FTC in the US) doesn't fully block a merger, but imposes conditions requiring the sale of certain assets or businesses to avoid a dominant position in the jurisdiction in question.
Examples include GE-Honeywell - the EU required that businesses in Europe be sold off, and GE decided this invalidated the whole deal. Another example was BP buying ARCO - the FTC required BP to sell oil fields in Alaska and other assets on the US West Coast, BP did so and the deal went ahead.
It only looks like it's always the EU vetoing US deals because most global companies are US-domiciled. There are very few EU-domiciled firms with US presences big enough to warrant action from the FTC.
However, imagine if BP were to try and merge with Shell - that would certainly provoke an FTC veto, or at least a requirement for large sell-offs.
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EU and FTC tend to look at airline mergers on a route-by-route basis. If KL and AF between them are likely to hold a monopoly, then they will be asked to make decently timed slots available at the relevant airports for other carriers who might want to act as competition on the route going forward, and offer them access to the AF/KL frequent flyer programmes if they don't already have their own.
Basically, KL and AF will end up having to make some room at CDG and AMS for any other airline (Easyjet springs to mind) who wants to start or increase services between airports in the Netherlands and France.
Also, for what it's worth, the EU cleared the United/US Airways merger, while the US authorities blocked it!
Basically, KL and AF will end up having to make some room at CDG and AMS for any other airline (Easyjet springs to mind) who wants to start or increase services between airports in the Netherlands and France.
Also, for what it's worth, the EU cleared the United/US Airways merger, while the US authorities blocked it!
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For educational purposes, a very insightful quote from today's WSJ.
"KLM's inclusion into SkyTeam, the alliance led by Air France and Delta Air Lines, is the likeliest outcome of the talks, analysts say, because of regulatory obstacles to a full merger. Air travel between the U.S. and Europe is regulated by bilateral agreements that hinge on the foreign carrier being based in and controlled by the country signing the pact. If Air France took a controlling stake in KLM, the Dutch carrier would almost certainly lose landing privileges in the U.S."
So... perhaps the only announcement we'll see is "KL joins SkyTeam", followed shortly by NW and CO join SkyTeam.
"KLM's inclusion into SkyTeam, the alliance led by Air France and Delta Air Lines, is the likeliest outcome of the talks, analysts say, because of regulatory obstacles to a full merger. Air travel between the U.S. and Europe is regulated by bilateral agreements that hinge on the foreign carrier being based in and controlled by the country signing the pact. If Air France took a controlling stake in KLM, the Dutch carrier would almost certainly lose landing privileges in the U.S."
So... perhaps the only announcement we'll see is "KL joins SkyTeam", followed shortly by NW and CO join SkyTeam.
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AF should be able to acquire up to 49% of KL without triggering the consequences the WSJ talks about (Swissair did this with Sabena, for instance).
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More details from a later article, for educational purposes:
"The tie-up would bring together Europe's largest and fourth-largest airlines in a combination bigger than most U.S. carriers. To avoid the regulatory hurdles a merger would face, Air France and KLM are planning to create a jointly owned Franco-Dutch holding company, of which each airline would be a subsidiary, according to the people familiar with the situation. Air France and KLM would preserve their brands and national identities."
Clever.
"The tie-up would bring together Europe's largest and fourth-largest airlines in a combination bigger than most U.S. carriers. To avoid the regulatory hurdles a merger would face, Air France and KLM are planning to create a jointly owned Franco-Dutch holding company, of which each airline would be a subsidiary, according to the people familiar with the situation. Air France and KLM would preserve their brands and national identities."
Clever.
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Air France and KLM poised to agree alliance
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...819640,00.html
A little different take, saying that an alliance will only be pursued for now. And it says that Alitalia will enter into the alliance mix...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...819640,00.html
A little different take, saying that an alliance will only be pursued for now. And it says that Alitalia will enter into the alliance mix...