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mike turnbull Apr 7, 2003 8:52 am

It was good while it lasted.......
 
http://news.airwise.com/display/stor...049716513.html

The news that we've been expecting for some time now.

stut Apr 7, 2003 9:08 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">it will now upgrade service on all former KLM uk flights</font>
Does that include cutting my favourite flight LCY-AMS? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Is this just a standard turn of phrase for press releases, or are there genuine service upgrades planned?

johan rebel Apr 7, 2003 9:29 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by stut:
Does that include cutting my favourite flight LCY-AMS? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Is this just a standard turn of phrase for press releases, or are there genuine service upgrades planned?
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I believe that the standard of in-flight catering on Cityhopper, which has declined precipitously over the years, nevertheless is slightly less awful than that on KLMuk.

johan


mike turnbull Apr 7, 2003 1:20 pm

Of course, the UK forum was initiated by KLM uk, so I assume that either CityHopper will 'take it over', or it will surely die a death.

Markie Apr 7, 2003 10:39 pm

This is indeed sad news - as an AirUK flyer for a long time before they got hooked by KLM, I am sorry to see the brand go.

I assume this means that the UK flight numbers will be toast also.

Does this mean, do we think, the silly baggage rules that CityHopper have for carry on?

ralfkrippner Apr 8, 2003 2:15 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mike turnbull:
Of course, the UK forum was initiated by KLM uk, so I assume that either CityHopper will 'take it over', or it will surely die a death.</font>
But of course all those regulars from the KLMuk forum are very welcome here...

stut Apr 8, 2003 4:57 am

According to the Holland Herald I was reading today, the KLMuk flights are now being referred to as KLM cityhopper uk. Is this an intermediate step, or will they remain a separate company?

If they got rid of the excellent planeside luggage check/collect they have at LCY, I'd be very disappointed.

beergut Apr 8, 2003 9:40 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by stut:
According to the Holland Herald I was reading today, the KLMuk flights are now being referred to as KLM cityhopper uk. Is this an intermediate step, or will they remain a separate company?

If they got rid of the excellent planeside luggage check/collect they have at LCY, I'd be very disappointed.
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Cityhopper have always allowed ramp check of luggage at BRS.

Nigel


beergut Apr 8, 2003 9:43 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Markie:
Does this mean, do we think, the silly baggage rules that CityHopper have for carry on?</font>
Same rules as for KLM and slightly better than the old UK rules.

" If your flight is operated by KLM cityhopper, KLM uk or KLM exel, you may be asked to surrender your hand baggage on boarding, due to limited storage space in the cabin. Your hand baggage will than be stored in the baggage compartment.
However, on KLM cityhopper and KLM uk operated flights, Platinum Elite, Gold Elite and Silver Elite Flying Dutchman and WorldPerks members as well as Traxxer card holders will always be permitted to take one piece of hand luggage on board (max. 55 x 35 x 25 cm and 10 kg.). "

Nigel


Wilma Jardine Apr 8, 2003 1:16 pm

Re one piece of hand luggage

Since the EDI-AMS service still appears as a Fokker 100, I presume the above will not apply. I ask since I usually have my briefcase and a small bag carrying medications.

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cserpent Apr 8, 2003 4:19 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ralfkrippner:
But of course all those regulars from the KLMuk forum are very welcome here...</font>
Thanks Ralf, I've now joined here today after the discussion going on and the uncertainty of the KLM forum makes me wonder.

As a PPL myself I had heard the KLC pilots doing familiarisation routes on the late evening run to Newcastle, they even changed the callsigns from the usual format (e.g. UKA04F Ukay zero-four foxtrot) to UKA2144 - so we could see it was the beginning of the end. Even the G-INFO registry shows the running on the F100/F50 aircraft now to be KLM Cityhopper UK Ltd.

Well hopefully we will get together some good info on here and maybe Lesley Lindberg will listen for once!

Lee

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KLM PE (former RW), ACA Standard, BAW Blue, Hilton Gold

mike turnbull Apr 8, 2003 4:25 pm

Welcome aboard Lee. Mike.

Moriarty Apr 8, 2003 8:31 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cserpent:
Thanks Ralf, I've now joined here today after the discussion going on and the uncertainty of the KLM forum makes me wonder.
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Good to have another Geordie on board! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Jenbel Apr 9, 2003 4:34 am

I was flying KLM UK (from MAN)last week, but got a phonecall in Feb to say that the flight numbers had been changed to Cityhopper flight numbers. However, all aircraft were still branded as KLM UK. Service was as normal as well, with usual bad sandwiches.

stut Apr 9, 2003 5:35 am

Sandwiches ex-LCY this morning were leagues above normal EU-KLM or old KLMuk... Everything in the airport and so on has changed over to Cityhopper - the planes just haven't been repainted yet. (I'm sure we can make a 'new name, same old Fokkers' joke here somewhere...)


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