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Old Apr 24, 06, 5:20 pm
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FAQ 3A1 - The Great KLM Aircraft and Seating Guide

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It gives me enormous personal pleasure to introduce the all-new

Great KLM Aircraft & Seating Guide
Graciously updated by our own Gajan and current as of 18 May 2009

Herein it is hoped that you will find everything you could ever want to know about the aircraft KLM fly, the seating and IFE options, which seats to choose, and which to avoid.

None of this would have been possible without the tireless efforts of Flying Blue Forum member Gajan, who searched and researched long into the night for weeks on end. Everyone be sure to thank him, and maybe treat him to a beer or slice of cheese the next time you're in the Shengen lounge.

I've locked this thread to keep it neat and tidy. Please direct all your questions, complaints, discussion, and smart-assed comments about what difference does it make since nobody's flying them anymore anyway to the new thread made just for that purpose. All the old questions and discussion from this thread have been preserved there as well.

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Old Apr 24, 06, 5:22 pm
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Boeing 747 – 400

See you seat in virtual reality
Virtual Reality tour of Boeing 747-400: Boeing 747-400
Virtual Reality tour of Boeing 747-400 combi: Boeing 747-400 combi

General Information
Number in fleet:
Full Passenger: 5
Combi: 5

Number of passengers:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 35
Economy Class: Full Passenger: 373 Combi: 238

Did you know: When pressurized, a 747 fuselage holds over a ton of air.

The 747 is mainly used on the following routes:
[North-America]: Los Angeles, Mexico City, New York JFK, Chicago, San Francisco, Toronto
[South-America]: Curacao, Paramaribo
[Asia]: Hong Kong, Seoul
[Africa]: Nairobi

Seat Information

Seatmap: Boeing 747-400


Seatmap: Boeing 747-400 Combi


Upperdeck World Business Class

World Business Class (dark blue on seat map):
35 full flat beds (approximately 78" long), 60" pitch, 20" width.

Economy Comfort-zone (orange on seat map):
36 seats, 35" pitch, 17,5" width, up to 2" additional recline compared to economy class.

Economy Class (light blue on seat map):
337 seats / 197 seats, 31" pitch, 17,5" width.

PS. Extra legroom seats (yellow on seat map) offer more legroom.

Inflight entertainment

Entertainment and services on board

World Business Class:
Audio and video on demand, 16" screen (non-HD).
Powerports available

Economy Class:
Audio and video on demand, 5,6" screen (non-HD).
Powerports not available.

KLM to roll-out streaming services on B747 aircraft, see here.

SeatGuru 747-400 Page
SeatGuru 747-400 combi Page


Cabin Photos

<to be completed>

Other Useful Information
Bassinet Positions: 1A 1K 10D (on the ground) 28EF 37EF 56EF

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Old Apr 24, 06, 5:22 pm
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Boeing 787 Dreamliner Series

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Boeing 777 Series

General Information
Number in fleet:
Boeing 777-200ER: 15
Boeing 777-300ER: 5

Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 35
Economy Class: 292 [B772], 390 [B77W]

Did you know: The 777's undercarriage is the largest ever used in a commercial jetliner, and its tires are the largest ever fitted to a commercial aircraft.


The 777-200ER is mainly used on routes: YYZ, JFK, LIM, PBM, GIG, ACC, CAI, JNB, JRO, DAR, LOS, DXB, CTU, DEL, KUL, CGK, MNL, PVG, NRT.
The 777-300ER is mainly used on routes: JFK, GIG, JRO, DAR, KUL, CGK, MNL.


Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap: Boeing 777-200ER
Seatmap: Boeing 777-300ER

The World Business Class of the B77W is equipped with the new seat, which is similar to the Air France NEVIII seat.


World Business Class:
Pitch: 60”
Width: 20"
Recline: 170o [175o B77W]
Seating Plan: 2-3-2

Economy Comfort-zone:
Pitch: 35” [B772], 34” [B77W]
Width: 17.5"
Seating Plan: 2-3-2, 3-3-3 [B772], 0-2-0, 2-4-2, 3-4-3


Economy Class:
Pitch: 31”
Width: 17.5"
Seating Plan: 3-3-3, 0-3-2, 0-3-0, 2-3-2 [B772], 3-4-3, 3-0-3, 2-4-2 [B77W]


World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen

Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen

Program Guide



Comments & Advice
Originally Posted by Maurits
Frankly, I can't seem to find any seat on this aircraft that is considerably better than the other seats.

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Originally Posted by johan rebel
an aircraft I try to avoid. Should I have no alternative, I would go for row 3.

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Originally Posted by Jetfan
avoid row 1, too close to toilets, row 2 is OK, avoid middle seats!!

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SeatGuru 777 Page

Cabin Photos

WBC Seat
WBC Seat
Economy
Economy
Economy Seat
Boeing 777-300ER [copyrights hardivw]



Other Useful Information
Bassinet positions: 1a 1j 10a 10d 10f 10j 30d 30f

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Airbus A330 Series

General Information
Number in fleet: 11

Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 30
Economy Class: 251

Did you know: The A330's maximum cruising altitude is 41000 feet

The A330-200 is mainly used on routes: YYC, YYZ, ATL, DFW, IAD, ABV, KAN, EBB, AUH, MCT, BAH, KWI, DMM, DOH, ALA.

The newest A330 (PH-AOM) is equipped with the newest WBC seat (the same one as in the B77W).

Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap: Airbus A330-200

World Business Class:
Pitch: 60”
Width: 20"
Recline: 170 degrees
Seating Plan: 2-2-2

Economy Comfort-zone:
Pitch: 35”
Width: 17.5"
Seating Plan: 2-3-2, 2-4-2


Economy Class Pitch:
Pitch: 31”
Width: 17.5"
Seating Plan: 2-4-2, 2-3-2, 0-3-2


World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen

Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen

Program Guide


Comments & Advice
Originally Posted by Maurits
During daytime flights I find seats 7AB&HJ excellent as you are not in the vicinity of lavatories or storage closets.

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Originally Posted by derekcarden
I try to avoid, the new seats are not terribly comforable. Row 1 or 2 is pretty nice.

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Originally Posted by jetfan
All seats in row 1 and 3 are just fine!

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Cabin Photos

Economy1
Economy2
WBC1
WBC2




Other Useful Information
Last saleable seats in WBC: 7DG (next to cabin divider)
Last saleable seats in Economy: 11EF (limited view video screen) & 25AB, 25HJ (limited recline)
Bassinet Positions:
WBC: 1AB 1DG 1HJ (in front of double seat center)
WBC: 6AB 6DG 6HJ (in front of double seat center)
Economy: 10AB 10DEG 10HJ (in front of the middle row)
Economy: 30DE 30FG (in front of the double seat center)

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Old Apr 24, 06, 5:24 pm
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Boeing 737 Series

General Information
Number in fleet:

Boeing 737-700: 8
Boeing 737-800: 22
Boeing 737-900: 5

Number of pax:
Europe Business Class: Varies on configuration
Economy Class: Varies on configuration

Did you know: Boeing recently delivered the 5000th Boeing 737 to Southwest Airlines

The 737 Family is mainly used on routes: Europe and Tel Aviv.


Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap:
Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900

Europe Business Class:
Pitch: 33”
Seating Plan: 2-2 (middle seat is kept free)

Economy Class:
Pitch: 31”
Seating Plan: 3-3



Flights to/from TIP, TLV, AMM & DAM for Europe Select passengers only and IAH
Video IFE: DigEPlayer
Audio IFE: DigEPlayer

All other flights:
Video IFE: Map (B737-700)
Audio IFE: PA System


Comments & Advice
Originally Posted by johan rebel
I would avoid bulkhead rows 1 and 2ABC, because legroom is minimal.

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Cabin Photos
Europe Select
Economy
Economy


Other Useful Information
Legroom seats: 2D
Last saleable crew seats: 24D
Cradle positions: none
Lavatory Europe Select: forward row 1 left, 1
Lavatory Economy: behind last row left/right, 2

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KLM Cityhopper

General Information
Number in fleet:
Embraer 175:
Embraer 190: 17


Number of pax:
Europe Select: Varies on configuration
Economy Class: Varies on configuration

The Embraer's are used on European flights only.


Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap:
Fokker 70
Fokker 100
Embraer 190



Aircraft:

Embraer 190
Pitch: 32” (Europe Business) & 31” (Economy Class)
Seating Plan: 2-2 (Europe Business) & 2-2 (Economy Class)

Video IFE: None
Audio IFE: PA System


Other Useful Information
Extra legspace seat: 1d plus seats 11a/c/d/e/f
Last saleable seats: 17a/c/d/e/f
Cradle positions: none
Pets: only 1 petc on row 15 or row 16

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