b12e

when you get off the flight; at some point there's these "go straight through the no-return gates for AMS" which then takes you to the passport control and luggage pickup areas, and "go right for transit" at which point you end up at transit security, eventually ending up on the upper level of the lounge 2 (non-schengen commercial area near the passport control filter to go to schengen) in between D and E gates.

It's a dedicated area on the level above where you'd normally walk to go to piers D, E, F, G specifically for these flights.

CyBeR

I'm sure it's less "some have had to" and more "some were unable to follow the correct signs".

roelb

The answer has already been given, but to make it clear:

The concourses have multiple levels. For both departing flights and arriving flights from secure origins, the gates are connected to the standard level, which is the normal airside area with shops, bars, etc.

If an inbound flight originated from a non-secure airport, they simply close some doors and open others at the gate, causing you to deplane into the upper level of the concourse, which is completely seperate from the level below. On that level, you still walk towards the terminal building, where you have two options: one is to exit towards the baggage hall, the other is to go through transit security and end up airside on the level below.

As soon as the plane is empty, they change over the door configuration at the gate so the plane can be boarded again from the standard airside area.

There is yet another exception: flights from CUR and other Carribean islands: they deplane onto the top floor but into a special area where /all/ passengers and cabin luggage are screened. This is what Schiphol refers to as "100%" flights, coming in from airportis designated as a high-risk area for narcotics smuggling.

b12e

Bit offtopic, but here goes...

I like these 100% checks. When flying on your own, the last "conversation" you had was usually several hours ago (about which meal you wanted from KL) so when you get off the plane, you first get greeted by a nice doggo, followed by a little chat with someone to talk about how awesome your vacation or business trip was. Always nice to talk to a friendly KMAR officer for a little. And then you're on your way to transit security or exit.

Only really sucks if you're sitting towards the back of the 777, as then you'll have 300+ people in front of you doing the same thing 😄

Tofuciao

Funny to see someone else also confused about their procedure.

flew from SIN twice since May. First time went thru extra security after landing in AMS in May. But the end of June, we just went out of the boarding gate directly and into the non-Schengen area. (G gate if I recall correctly?)

when I was in the lounge, I got approached by a KLM lady who was doing customer satisfaction survey. I voiced my confusion. Her answer was similar to some of replies here—some original airports are clean/safe, while some are not. But in my case, it might have been a mistake to let PAXs go directly into the boarding area. A wrong door might have been opened…

Fabo.sk

Occasionaly a mix up happens. But in your case it might also have done with the fact whether your flight was combined with Denpasar or not. DPS is not clean therefore all SIN pax are also contaminated.

johan rebel

I've seen that on more than one occasion. For example, arriving on a Schengen flight at a D-gate, disembarking pax go upstairs to the Schengen level. Yet several times I've walked right past wide-open doors to the lower non-Schengen level. I've had similar experiences with longhaul gates (E, F or G, can't remember).

Johan

HelloErin

I am confused as to whether transit security and passport control are the same thing, or are they different things? I am flying from the US to JRO, via AMS. I thought I wouldn't have to go through security arriving from a clean country as the US based on some replies. But this reply seems to indicate I do have to go through security. What wording on the signs should I be looking for?

Solevita

If you read the quote b12e is replying to, you'll see that's answering a question about coming from a non-secure country, no confusion needed. No security arriving from the US, just immigration if transiting to Schengen/entering NL.

b12e

And since, last time I checked, JRO isn't part of Schengen or NL, not even that in their specific case 😄

GUWonder

Mistakes happen. And sometimes it’s not even a mistake that makes things be different one or more times on a route than is generally the case for the transit on the route.

SkyTeam777

Assuming that USA is still safe origin so I can bring large bottles of duty free purchased post security in USA to connecting flight to Portugal.

irishguy28

If still sealed in the transparent plastic bag that the duty free shop placed it in, with the receipt visible, then it should be OK. Otherwise, you may have to check it in or have it confiscated.

EDIT: And yes, the US is one of the (few) countries whose security checks are deemed sufficient by the EU not to require security checks for transferring pax. (It seems that Singapore - which previously was on the list - has been removed. I find that surprising. EDIT: It seems that Singapore lost this status in November 2022)

Ditto

That's quite curious, on a recent flight from SIN to CDG I didn't have to go through security, it was a P flight (and my first one so I have nothing to compare it to) but entering the lounge we skipped the metal detector/x-ray machine, I assumed it's because SIN is a 'safe' country but...

MichielR

SIN is stil safe, according to Attachment 4-b of the Regulation as currently applicable.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...R1998-20230401