Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
#1411
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"If it is busy, we advise you to use the Privium gates in Departure Hall 1 (behind check-in rows 3/4) and Departure Hall 2 (behind check-in row 9) for all flights. This way, you will not end up in any queues outside."
Instead of clarifying matters, they are sowing confusion.
Johan
#1412
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Johan
#1413
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 7,832
Schiphol says the situation will be easier in August: https://www.nu.nl/economie/6209474/s...te-kunnen.html
i.e. they will be able to cater for 73000 passenger per day instead of 72500...
Let's cross fingers, decided to Fly Delta premium select in order to have sky priority and limit the damage ;-)
i.e. they will be able to cater for 73000 passenger per day instead of 72500...
Let's cross fingers, decided to Fly Delta premium select in order to have sky priority and limit the damage ;-)
Email from Privium. Most noteworthy is this paragraph:
Which does sound like the devaluation that we were assuming was a poor agent upthread: Privium only feeding into the Priority queue, rather than being a separate [and shorter] one. Remains to be seen whether they actually rearrange the tensa barriers and/or police it as such.
Which does sound like the devaluation that we were assuming was a poor agent upthread: Privium only feeding into the Priority queue, rather than being a separate [and shorter] one. Remains to be seen whether they actually rearrange the tensa barriers and/or police it as such.
It's not.
Hello,
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
But the email also states:
"If it is busy, we advise you to use the Privium gates in Departure Hall 1 (behind check-in rows 3/4) and Departure Hall 2 (behind check-in row 9) for all flights. This way, you will not end up in any queues outside."
Instead of clarifying matters, they are sowing confusion.
Johan
"If it is busy, we advise you to use the Privium gates in Departure Hall 1 (behind check-in rows 3/4) and Departure Hall 2 (behind check-in row 9) for all flights. This way, you will not end up in any queues outside."
Instead of clarifying matters, they are sowing confusion.
Johan
I shall try on Sunday.
#1414
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,321
But the email also states:
"If it is busy, we advise you to use the Privium gates in Departure Hall 1 (behind check-in rows 3/4) and Departure Hall 2 (behind check-in row 9) for all flights. This way, you will not end up in any queues outside."
Instead of clarifying matters, they are sowing confusion.
Johan
"If it is busy, we advise you to use the Privium gates in Departure Hall 1 (behind check-in rows 3/4) and Departure Hall 2 (behind check-in row 9) for all flights. This way, you will not end up in any queues outside."
Instead of clarifying matters, they are sowing confusion.
Johan
#1415
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,414
Departures 3 has been as you describe through my three years of membership - the priority gates and the Privium gate both lead to the same tensa-snake [never actually had to wait though]. I can't recall having used Departures 1 with Privium and I think 4 just went into the same queue but I'm not sure.
I can imagine the vast majority of Priority access is at D2 due to the SP desks, so maybe this was just an unofficial setup to queue jump the Privium members there? I don't believe anyone has reported that the tensa layout has changed yet either - merely that a queue dragon was redirecting people and now that Privium are emailing on the subject.
#1416
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
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I've gone through 1A, 1, temporary 1 even, 2 and 3 many times during the last couple of years, and at no time do I remember not being in the same line with non-Privium prio pax. I did not use the back entrance much though until recently TBH, but I did use it a couple of times after Dep 1 was closed for remodelling.
#1417
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"Are you travelling and are there any queues outside the departure hall? At very busy times, it is not yet possible for you and your fellow travellers to directly enter the departure hall due to crowd control measures."
Now the crypto-commies can remain outside for ever as far as I'm concerned, but what exactly is the deal for Privium members?
That email is not a model of clarity, which is exactly what it should have been.
Johan
#1418
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This doesn't match my experience in Departures 2 [all the last year, but predating "the chaos"] - there has been a separate tensa lane for Privium which goes hard right immediately to the scanners, whereas the "Priority" gates [which aren't actually triaging Priority access] go into a tensa-snake so that it can accommodate more people. I believe this is the location described upthread by johan and that would seem to correlate with his description.
Johan
#1419
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 9
Go to https://www.schiphol.nl/en/
Enter your flight details and select the correct date
See what time they recommend arriving
Enter your flight details and select the correct date
See what time they recommend arriving
#1420
Join Date: May 2009
Location: AMS
Posts: 2,043
Yes, but the mail also says:
"Are you travelling and are there any queues outside the departure hall? At very busy times, it is not yet possible for you and your fellow travellers to directly enter the departure hall due to crowd control measures."
Now the crypto-commies can remain outside for ever as far as I'm concerned, but what exactly is the deal for Privium members?
"Are you travelling and are there any queues outside the departure hall? At very busy times, it is not yet possible for you and your fellow travellers to directly enter the departure hall due to crowd control measures."
Now the crypto-commies can remain outside for ever as far as I'm concerned, but what exactly is the deal for Privium members?
#1421
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Hello,
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
Even 2 hour layover at AMS on the way from DEL to the US should work fine — and that is even with the required passenger re-screening at AMS. But don’t count on time to waste around shopping a lot or taking a long shower.
#1422
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SEA
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 288
Hello,
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
Looking for some advice from frequent flyers of Schiphol.... I am flying ORD-AMS-DEL on July 2 returning DEL-AMS-ORD on Jul 18. My layover in AMS is 7 hours on Jul 2 and 2 hours on Jul 18. Do you think that will be enough time for security or should I look at rebooking options preemptively? I have US passport if that matters.
Thanks!
#1423
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
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Posts: 3,444
Warning: travelling Monday 4th July2022 from Dutch airports
Spoiler
due to farmers protesting about government rules about nitrogen exhaust:
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/0...ministers-say/
sources:
https://www.nieuweoogst.nl/nieuws/20...havens-maandag
https://www.parool.nl/nederland/boer...w.google.nl%2Fhttps://www.hartvannederland.nl/nieu...and-platleggen
https://www.boerderij.nl/oproep-4-ju...nederland-plat
https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/boeren-...w.google.nl%2F
if you need to reach any airports:
take the train or stay close at a hotel
Last edited by HadesNL; Jul 1, 2022 at 10:00 am
#1424
Join Date: Jul 2019
Programs: DL DM; Marriott Titanium; *A Gold
Posts: 47
Thanks for all the great info in this thread. Arrived by Uber and was dropped off downstairs since it was very busy upstairs.
We we joined the huge queue line outside, but eventually asked someone about sky priority access and they told us to go across from door F. Once through there we queued to go up the stairs (behind SP check-in) and through security. They queued us at the bottom of the stairs and then there was a separate priority security line that we went through upstairs.
We we joined the huge queue line outside, but eventually asked someone about sky priority access and they told us to go across from door F. Once through there we queued to go up the stairs (behind SP check-in) and through security. They queued us at the bottom of the stairs and then there was a separate priority security line that we went through upstairs.
#1425
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MAD
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 242
Thanks for all the great info in this thread. Arrived by Uber and was dropped off downstairs since it was very busy upstairs.
We we joined the huge queue line outside, but eventually asked someone about sky priority access and they told us to go across from door F. Once through there we queued to go up the stairs (behind SP check-in) and through security. They queued us at the bottom of the stairs and then there was a separate priority security line that we went through upstairs.
We we joined the huge queue line outside, but eventually asked someone about sky priority access and they told us to go across from door F. Once through there we queued to go up the stairs (behind SP check-in) and through security. They queued us at the bottom of the stairs and then there was a separate priority security line that we went through upstairs.
In the recent weeks I have found myself sometimes sent straight to the right as Privium, with maybe 1-4 people ahead of me, or merged with the SP much larger crowd of 50+ people zig-zagging ahead of me. When you combine that with more than half of the bags going to secondary it can mean a very big difference in the time it takes to get through security (still way way better than for any non-status passenger, I know)