Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
#1366
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: United currently plat
Posts: 203
question on AMS transfer
If am flying in on KL from Berlin and have a separate ticket on UA to USA and I am NOT CHECK BAGS. If I check in online with UA and have a BP on my phone will I be able to transfer from within the secure areas of the terminal?
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
I had planned to check my luggage on both flights but have reconsidered for obvious reasons!
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
I had planned to check my luggage on both flights but have reconsidered for obvious reasons!
#1367
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
If am flying in on KL from Berlin and have a separate ticket on UA to USA and I am NOT CHECK BAGS. If I check in online with UA and have a BP on my phone will I be able to transfer from within the secure areas of the terminal?
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
#1368
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Cali
Programs: AA ExPlat, Marriott Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,022
If am flying in on KL from Berlin and have a separate ticket on UA to USA and I am NOT CHECK BAGS. If I check in online with UA and have a BP on my phone will I be able to transfer from within the secure areas of the terminal?
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
I had planned to check my luggage on both flights but have reconsidered for obvious reasons!
Is there a Fast Track for *A elites to move though to S>NS screening process?
I had planned to check my luggage on both flights but have reconsidered for obvious reasons!
#1369
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF, CX, BA
Posts: 147
Queues first thing in the morning?
Haven't departed from AMS before and am due to on a Tues early Aug on a 7.15 AMS-FCO flight in J on KLM. After seeing the queues and messages one would think that it is necessary to arrive 3-4 hours before your flight, but for a 7am departure this seems like madness.
Does anyone have experience of how busy the queues are around 5-6am at the moment?
Does anyone have experience of how busy the queues are around 5-6am at the moment?
#1370
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Plat, DL AMEX Plat
Posts: 333
Haven't departed from AMS before and am due to on a Tues early Aug on a 7.15 AMS-FCO flight in J on KLM. After seeing the queues and messages one would think that it is necessary to arrive 3-4 hours before your flight, but for a 7am departure this seems like madness.
Does anyone have experience of how busy the queues are around 5-6am at the moment?
Does anyone have experience of how busy the queues are around 5-6am at the moment?
#1371
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: Delta Silver, HH Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 5,340
Update: Confirmed he was turned away (as were many other Silvers) at the back of the SP area. They were checking boarding passes and didn't allow anyone silver or below through regardless of pointing out (silver) status.
He said security has tightened up significantly and any potential 'leak' points were closed off by Schiphol staff.
Arrived at 7am and cleared it all in the regular queue after 1hour and 5mins despite it looking far worse than previous queues.
Curious if anyone else has thoughts on the silver rejection and whether this is correct procedure. (As a platinum I'm not impacted but it seems odd that presumably silver can still do priority baggage drop but not nip through security... or can anyone report that they've also been turned away from SP as a silver?)
He said security has tightened up significantly and any potential 'leak' points were closed off by Schiphol staff.
Arrived at 7am and cleared it all in the regular queue after 1hour and 5mins despite it looking far worse than previous queues.
Curious if anyone else has thoughts on the silver rejection and whether this is correct procedure. (As a platinum I'm not impacted but it seems odd that presumably silver can still do priority baggage drop but not nip through security... or can anyone report that they've also been turned away from SP as a silver?)
#1372
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Netherlands
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum for Life, AccorLiveLimitless Platinum, Qatar Airways Gold
Posts: 365
Last weekend, the guy at the back gate also checked my and another persons boarding pass when comming from the sp check in desk. So depending on who is at the back gate this will not always work.
#1373
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: Delta Silver, HH Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 5,340
That’d also mean that companions of Skyprio pax are sent back? Can’t imagine Plat/Gold flyers that take their family on holiday are thrilled about this.
#1375
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
So you both had entered thorough the front of SP and before heading up the escalator for security your boarding passes were checked? Never seen this. Wow. They must be locking it down.
#1376
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
I can't imagine this happening... there's been a few times when I've had questions about my companion not being SP but a simple 'we're travelling together' has always resolved it. (That said if it were a family of 5+ it's a bit different to one adult travel companion being waved through.)
#1377
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,457
Clear but then why not police the priority security area? (Or give Silvers a break and not make the distinction given how ridiculous it is to allow some Silvers FastTrack security?) Or have Silvers use a priority lane at regular checkin for Amsterdam? It seems really really odd to allow those with bags or who can't/haven't checked in to also skip security...
On the information you've given so far, your other half was correctly rejected [as were all the other Silvers]. No Silvers have priority security solely as a consequence of their status. Admittedly the priority check-in but not security is a somewhat awkward and potentially confusing distinction - but it was applied correctly.
#1378
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
There's a boarding pass scanner [and a Privium gate] at the start of the security line upstairs isn't there? There are one-way gates at that back entrance - the one way being out of the SP area. Silvers who check-in are presumably meant to exit via that and head for normal security, but if they head upstairs should get bounced by the gates and sent towards the normal line [approaching from the other side to general passengers].
On the information you've given so far, your other half was correctly rejected [as were all the other Silvers]. No Silvers have priority security solely as a consequence of their status. Admittedly the priority check-in but not security is a somewhat awkward and potentially confusing distinction - but it was applied correctly.
On the information you've given so far, your other half was correctly rejected [as were all the other Silvers]. No Silvers have priority security solely as a consequence of their status. Admittedly the priority check-in but not security is a somewhat awkward and potentially confusing distinction - but it was applied correctly.
Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks the approach is odd.
Also a bit strange that I have never (when was silver 4 or so years ago) been asked to leave the SP area after checking in or seen anyone ever asked to leave the area for being Silver-can't imagine Silver passengers being bumped from the area being considered a good user experience... makes far more sense to just have them use a priority lane at regular checkin to avoid drama and awkwardness.
#1379
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 88
I'm not debating whether or not it's the correct procedure (which I think is pretty clear from my comments) my point is that it's a strange setup (versus CDG where there is mostly a true split between SP in security and priority check-in) and odd way to spend resource if people are actually being bumped from inside the area (policing internal SP area versus policing the back gate of SP).
Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks the approach is odd.
Also a bit strange that I have never (when was silver 4 or so years ago) been asked to leave the SP area after checking in or seen anyone ever asked to leave the area for being Silver-can't imagine Silver passengers being bumped from the area being considered a good user experience... makes far more sense to just have them use a priority lane at regular checkin to avoid drama and awkwardness.
Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks the approach is odd.
Also a bit strange that I have never (when was silver 4 or so years ago) been asked to leave the SP area after checking in or seen anyone ever asked to leave the area for being Silver-can't imagine Silver passengers being bumped from the area being considered a good user experience... makes far more sense to just have them use a priority lane at regular checkin to avoid drama and awkwardness.
Does anyone have experience with getting access to SP check-in and security by showing their ST E+ status with another airline? I understand from this forum and the ST website that this is indeed a benefit, however am yet to see any real-life reports. In my case, I'd have FB Silver on my boarding pass and be able to present a separate ITA ST E+ card.
#1380
Join Date: May 2009
Location: AMS
Posts: 2,055
There's a boarding pass scanner [and a Privium gate] at the start of the security line upstairs isn't there? There are one-way gates at that back entrance - the one way being out of the SP area. Silvers who check-in are presumably meant to exit via that and head for normal security, but if they head upstairs should get bounced by the gates and sent towards the normal line [approaching from the other side to general passengers].
On the information you've given so far, your other half was correctly rejected [as were all the other Silvers]. No Silvers have priority security solely as a consequence of their status. Admittedly the priority check-in but not security is a somewhat awkward and potentially confusing distinction - but it was applied correctly.
On the information you've given so far, your other half was correctly rejected [as were all the other Silvers]. No Silvers have priority security solely as a consequence of their status. Admittedly the priority check-in but not security is a somewhat awkward and potentially confusing distinction - but it was applied correctly.