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Leedsflyer Jun 27, 22 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by Fabo.sk (Post 34374734)
S>NS no security check
NS>S no security check for arrivals from safe countries, mainly USA, UK, Canada.
Otherwise transfer security. There have not been any reports on that topic lately, whether good or bad.

Thanks. That's good there's no security from safe countries, as I'm planning a NS (UK) >S connection with only 1 hour -- thought that may still be a bit tight I guess... I guess there is no priority line for passport control.

Leedsflyer Jun 27, 22 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by Maestro Ramen (Post 34373601)
From S to NS, just passport check no security.

For the state of the queue check the post immediately above yours, among others.

thanks.

Fabo.sk Jun 27, 22 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by Leedsflyer (Post 34375121)
Thanks. That's good there's no security from safe countries, as I'm planning a NS (UK) >S connection with only 1 hour -- thought that may still be a bit tight I guess... I guess there is no priority line for passport control.

No, but there is a short connection lane.

johan rebel Jun 27, 22 5:47 pm

From a punctuality perspective Monday was an absolute disaster.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3625cd87c0.png
Red = arrived at least 60 minutes late. Most of those flights were delayed a lot longer than that.

KL aircraft and crew scheduling must be a right mess.

Johan

Okoshiyasu Jun 28, 22 12:46 am


Originally Posted by atflyer (Post 34370876)
Situation is really impredictable then....Friday evening bad, Saturday evening empty....Next flight Tue 18:00-ish, will start lighting candles...

7:30am Tuesday and it's already a pretty long line for Shenghen, all the way outside to the end of the white tent...

I still can't believe Schiphol hasn't even set up some sort of live update system for passengers to know what to expect ahead. Terrible crisis management really...

malmostoso Jun 28, 22 2:07 am

FWIW this morning I took 2 passengers to RTM at 7:30 for a 10AM flight. They were HBO and in the BA lounge before 8AM.

There are tents set up outside the terminal but it was super quiet.

Sjoerd Jun 28, 22 2:29 am

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...178a76f0e.jpeg
A friend arrived @ AMS last night around 11:15pm and had to find his way through piles of suitcases that somehow had lost contact with their owners.

Fabo.sk Jun 28, 22 3:07 am

At least some of them were marked OS372. I initially thought whether they might not be from the Friday evening cancelled flight but that was 376. 372 has not been cancelled recently... But maybe it left unloaded?

Either case, not good.

I've checked out passport control today. Transfer full, but not unusually so.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...db71cca8d1.jpg

Arrival control from what I could see very manageable.

E-gates open in both.

CyBeR Jun 28, 22 3:47 am


Originally Posted by Sjoerd (Post 34376179)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...178a76f0e.jpeg
A friend arrived @ AMS last night around 11:15pm and had to find his way through piles of suitcases that somehow had lost contact with their owners.

That is still the case this morning.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cea08256aa.jpg

DeppityDawg Jun 28, 22 5:12 am


Originally Posted by nk15 (Post 34370683)
Just go in the night before, and sleep on the floor, to be sure, or do they lock the airport overnight? :p

I just had to do this myself (short overnight connection and too lazy/cheap/nervous to leave the airport and come back in). There are a lot of folks sleeping all around the terminal. Thank god the lounge opens at 4:45.

FlyingBlonde89 Jun 28, 22 5:24 am

Mr FlyingBlonde was on a 9.30am flight and said the line was the worst he'd seen but it moved relatively quickly once he was in it (overall 1 hour approx to clear everything for a non-schengen flight). He's silver and was turned away from the priority area (he said it was heavily guarded and lots of other passengers were also turned away).

KLflyerRalph Jun 28, 22 5:34 am


Originally Posted by FlyingBlonde89 (Post 34376450)
Mr FlyingBlonde was on a 9.30am flight and said the line was the worst he'd seen but it moved relatively quickly once he was in it (overall 1 hour approx to clear everything for a non-schengen flight). He's silver and was turned away from the priority area (he said it was heavily guarded and lots of other passengers were also turned away).

What?! The Skypriority check-in area is also explicitly for Silver/Elite members.

FlyingBlonde89 Jun 28, 22 5:49 am


Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph (Post 34376472)
What?! The Skypriority check-in area is also explicitly for Silver/Elite members.

I was a little confused about this too... I realise that Silver isn't SkyPriority but I also thought it was correct that Silvers' use this area. He was turned away (perhaps they were checking boarding passes for the SP red square?)- will get a debrief from Mr FB after he's out of the chaos of his arrival airport. (In case there's any question, he was on a KLM flight.)

KLflyerRalph Jun 28, 22 5:52 am


Originally Posted by FlyingBlonde89 (Post 34376502)
I was a little confused about this too... I realise that Silver isn't SkyPriority but I also thought it was correct that Silvers' use this area. He was turned away (perhaps they were checking boarding passes for the SP red square?)- will get a debrief from Mr FB after he's out of the chaos of his arrival airport. (In case there's any question, he was on a KLM flight.)

Indeed if they only check for the SP logo, this is not available on the BP. But if a pax challenges the agent as being Silver and is still denied entry, that would be worrisome.

Leedsflyer Jun 28, 22 6:51 am


Originally Posted by Fabo.sk (Post 34375260)
No, but there is a short connection lane.

Yes I remember that from pre-pandemic - good to know it's still there.


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