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#1276
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Netherlands
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, AccorLiveLimitless Platinum
Posts: 279
Same here but then for departure, congestion at ATC, delay approx 1 hour. We might get a pushback to free the gate and wait at a different location. But I think the next flight has received a gate change as there were TK luggage containers that showed up after our scheduled departure time and have now been taken away again.
#1277
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,139
Thanks for this data point Brendan. I fly this evening to Oslo and if even this morning things are doable (time most vulnerable for clogging if pax show up hours early, doubling or tripling the usual numbers), this evening things should at least not be worse as you saw it. Of course I have to use dep 1 and have 'just' Sky priority instead of Privium but it seems there won't be a repeat of my London nightmare earlier this week.
You will probably be guided to either 1 or 2 upstairs depending on the situation at the time.
Same here but then for departure, congestion at ATC, delay approx 1 hour. We might get a pushback to free the gate and wait at a different location. But I think the next flight has received a gate change as there were TK luggage containers that showed up after our scheduled departure time and have now been taken away again.
#1278
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 6,259
So what's the best gameplan for someone flying KLM TATL J in two weeks, originating at AMS and departing at 9:45am. Go through Security/Bag check at Departures 2? Departures 3? We're planning on arriving at 5am, since we absolutely can't miss our flight, but this 4 hour rule worries me.
However.. if you are flying J that means you have Skypriority. That also means you can (and should) use the escalator up to Departures 2 priority security straight from the Skypriority check-in area. And while reports vary a bit, I don't think anyone has reported taking longer than an hour to get through security/passport control from there. So with that arrival time I would expect that you will be absolutely fine.
If you are flying KLM, all on the same PNR, you can all use SP check in and SP/Priority security. Did this myself last August with my own kids. For priority security age of kids is irrelevant.
You probably mean passport automated gates when you talk about E-gates? If so then yes the automated passport gates can't be used by young kids. However Zurich is within the Schengen zone, so you do not need to clear passport control at AMS.
You probably mean passport automated gates when you talk about E-gates? If so then yes the automated passport gates can't be used by young kids. However Zurich is within the Schengen zone, so you do not need to clear passport control at AMS.
#1279
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,139
Last Thursday i was siting naar the entrance as the Lounge was full due to Tbe SQ flight taking off @11ish as you stated correctly.To my surprise 6 pax paid at the desk the 60EUR fee to enter in the relative short period i was there and they were let in despite the Lounge being full.Catering was terrific,however the tables were not cleaned quickly(really slow)which made the Lounge look like a cheap take-away restaurant.
#1280
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Plat, DL AMEX Plat
Posts: 287
Originally Posted by robert4travels View Post
If you are flying KLM, all on the same PNR, you can all use SP check in and SP/Priority security. Did this myself last August with my own kids. For priority security age of kids is irrelevant.
You probably mean passport automated gates when you talk about E-gates? If so then yes the automated passport gates can't be used by young kids. However Zurich is within the Schengen zone, so you do not need to clear passport control at AMS.
This used to be the case, but I don't think that taking family through Priority security is an official benefit. Now that they seem to be manually checking boarding passes for priority security more often than not, I would not assume that you can take anyone through priority security if they are not officially eligible.
If you are flying KLM, all on the same PNR, you can all use SP check in and SP/Priority security. Did this myself last August with my own kids. For priority security age of kids is irrelevant.
You probably mean passport automated gates when you talk about E-gates? If so then yes the automated passport gates can't be used by young kids. However Zurich is within the Schengen zone, so you do not need to clear passport control at AMS.
This used to be the case, but I don't think that taking family through Priority security is an official benefit. Now that they seem to be manually checking boarding passes for priority security more often than not, I would not assume that you can take anyone through priority security if they are not officially eligible.
I think elite flyers would be VERY angry if this was not the case, as these benefits come in handy especially if you are traveling with your family!
#1281
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CT
Programs: Marriott-LT Titanium; AA-LT Gold/Currently Plat
Posts: 159
I've posted the peak days calender under : post #1024
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34345309-post1024.html
Chosing the Sheraton the day before is a wise choice as even i have resorted to this tactic for my 13th July flight.
You at least evade the A4 highway Schiphol exit congestion and the backedup terminals car drop off lanes.
Could make a decent chance to be first at the checkin counters
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34345309-post1024.html
Chosing the Sheraton the day before is a wise choice as even i have resorted to this tactic for my 13th July flight.
You at least evade the A4 highway Schiphol exit congestion and the backedup terminals car drop off lanes.
Could make a decent chance to be first at the checkin counters

#1282
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 86
Sorry, DL Silver gives you priority check in but not priority security. So she should give herself plenty of time, just to be sure, to clear security.
Oddly enough, she will be able to check in or drop off bags quickly with priority check in, that won’t be the issue.
Oddly enough, she will be able to check in or drop off bags quickly with priority check in, that won’t be the issue.
#1283
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 6,259
So unless something changed at Schiphol / KLM since last August, if your family is on the same PNR as you, the elite flyer, then your family boarding passes will have Sky Priority printed on them as well. So if there is a manual BP check for the priority security line you will be fine. That is what was the case for me (DL ticket, KL metal).
I think elite flyers would be VERY angry if this was not the case, as these benefits come in handy especially if you are traveling with your family!
I think elite flyers would be VERY angry if this was not the case, as these benefits come in handy especially if you are traveling with your family!
#1285
Join Date: Dec 2018
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Miles & More pleb
Posts: 717
Absolutely dreadful arrival in KRK.
Half the plane did not get their luggage. Half! (Including most of J).
As I got distracted and missed the initial crowd movement I ended up pretty much last in line at the claims desk and there just 2 staff.
Called the platinum hotline. Most useless move ever. 10mns+ wait then took all my details only to tell me it errored at the end and I have to wait for my turn anyway - which by then I had missed, so an extra handful of minutes wasted.
I spent 90mns at the airport and barely missed a train too so now I am in an uber. I need to be in a concert in 50 minutes and by then I need to buy some clothes and take a shower.
Just awful. I intend to get a full set of nice clothes on KLM'd dime to make up for this disaster. 😈
Half the plane did not get their luggage. Half! (Including most of J).
As I got distracted and missed the initial crowd movement I ended up pretty much last in line at the claims desk and there just 2 staff.
Called the platinum hotline. Most useless move ever. 10mns+ wait then took all my details only to tell me it errored at the end and I have to wait for my turn anyway - which by then I had missed, so an extra handful of minutes wasted.
I spent 90mns at the airport and barely missed a train too so now I am in an uber. I need to be in a concert in 50 minutes and by then I need to buy some clothes and take a shower.
Just awful. I intend to get a full set of nice clothes on KLM'd dime to make up for this disaster. 😈
#1286
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 834
Next data point, Sat 25/6 19:22. Arrived by train 19:03. Was in lounge 25 twelve (12!) minutes later. Absolutely zero pax in the priority line. Almost zero pax in the normal line. My one little day back went to secondary, unfortunately, causing 3 minutes of delay. The flashy machines still cannot deal with coins, it seems. Sit by the moment I post this on a table packed with food & drinks. Twelve minutes is for me the absolute record in the 20 years I fly regularly.
My conclusion after four late afternoon/evening flights since early May: at such times Schiphol seems in normal shape. Although results from the past may not guarantee results in future.
My conclusion after four late afternoon/evening flights since early May: at such times Schiphol seems in normal shape. Although results from the past may not guarantee results in future.
#1287
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 834
Absolutely dreadful arrival in KRK.
Called the platinum hotline. Most useless move ever. 10mns+ wait then took all my details only to tell me it errored at the end and I have to wait for my turn anyway - which by then I had missed, so an extra handful of minutes wasted.
I spent 90mns at the airport and barely missed a train too so now I am in an uber. I need to be in a concert in 50 minutes and by then I need to buy some clothes and take a shower.
Just awful. I intend to get a full set of nice clothes on KLM'd dime to make up for this disaster. 😈
Called the platinum hotline. Most useless move ever. 10mns+ wait then took all my details only to tell me it errored at the end and I have to wait for my turn anyway - which by then I had missed, so an extra handful of minutes wasted.
I spent 90mns at the airport and barely missed a train too so now I am in an uber. I need to be in a concert in 50 minutes and by then I need to buy some clothes and take a shower.
Just awful. I intend to get a full set of nice clothes on KLM'd dime to make up for this disaster. 😈
Maybe it is a small consolation that on Sunday 19 with a missed connection I spent 30-40 min on the plat line before reaching an agent....
#1290
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Plat, DL AMEX Plat
Posts: 287
Interestingly this is how it works for DL (if same PNR then everyone has SP), but it is not a DL published benefit either.