Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
#1201
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
Programs: Lufthansa: Senator || IHG: Diamond Royal Ambassador Inner Circle || Plutonium Status
Posts: 3,493
Tip 1:
Follow twitter # Schiphol > latest
https://twitter.com/hashtag/schiphol?f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23klm&...d_query&f=live
to get an idea of queues at the airport reported by twitter users
Tip 2 : concerning Kmar passport control
these are the passports the E-gates accept:
EU: Schengen countries
Switserland
USA
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
South Korea
Japan
Hongkong
If the E-gates actually work, you can use above pictured countries' passports to use them
An explaination if they work: https://magazines.defensie.nl/kmarma...genlijk_8-2015
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If you hold an UK passport:
https://www.schiphol.nl/en/page/brexit/
As a British passenger,
you may no longer use the automated passport control system upon arrival.
Instead, follow the ‘all passports’ signs to a manual desk.
You may still use the automated passport control system upon departure, however.
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee will then stamp your passport
Follow twitter # Schiphol > latest
https://twitter.com/hashtag/schiphol?f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23klm&...d_query&f=live
to get an idea of queues at the airport reported by twitter users
Tip 2 : concerning Kmar passport control
these are the passports the E-gates accept:
EU: Schengen countries
Switserland
USA
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
South Korea
Japan
Hongkong
If the E-gates actually work, you can use above pictured countries' passports to use them
An explaination if they work: https://magazines.defensie.nl/kmarma...genlijk_8-2015
---------------------
If you hold an UK passport:
https://www.schiphol.nl/en/page/brexit/
As a British passenger,
you may no longer use the automated passport control system upon arrival.
Instead, follow the ‘all passports’ signs to a manual desk.
You may still use the automated passport control system upon departure, however.
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee will then stamp your passport
Checks for transfer passengers
Transfer passengers arriving from the UK do not need to pass through Security Control again at Schiphol and must only go through Passport Control if they cross the Schengen border.Last edited by HadesNL; Jun 22, 2022 at 8:49 am
#1202
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
Programs: Lufthansa: Senator || IHG: Diamond Royal Ambassador Inner Circle || Plutonium Status
Posts: 3,493
Thanks to :
https://insideflyer.nl/op-deze-64-eu...egeling-terug/
and
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220620-kljul22eu?rq=Klm%20
Their infirmation:
Planned July/August 2022 frequency adjustment, based on schedule comparison 05JUN22 vs 19JUN22:
Amsterdam – Aalborg111 > 108 flights (August 114 > 108)
Amsterdam – Aberdeen 121 > 118 (August 125 > 118)
Amsterdam – Barcelona 160 > 158 (August 159 > 154)
Amsterdam – Belfast 29 > 25 (August only)
Amsterdam – Bergen 123 > 118 (July only)
Amsterdam – Berlin 205 > 194 (August 211 > 205)
Amsterdam – Billund 123 > 115 (August 127 > 123)
Amsterdam – Birmingham 125 > 121 (August 127 > 120)
Amsterdam – Bologna 93 > 92 (July only)
Amsterdam – Bordeaux 118 > 116 (August 117 > 115)
Amsterdam – Brussels 124 > 112 (August 124 > 122)
Amsterdam – Bucharest 84 > 82 (August 88 > 79)
Amsterdam – Cardiff 52 > 48 (August 53 > 48)
Amsterdam – Copenhagen 184 > 182 (August 186 > 184)
Amsterdam – Cork 58 > 55 (August 60 > 58)
Amsterdam – Dresden 28 > 25 (August 28 > 24)
Amsterdam – Dublin 146 > 135 (August 150 > 141)
Amsterdam – Dusseldorf 121 > 114 (August 125 > 124)
Amsterdam – Edinburgh 124 > 116 (August 124 > 122)
Amsterdam – Florence 134 > 131 (August 132 > 126)
Amsterdam – Frankfurt 135 > 132 (August 137 > 133)
Amsterdam – Gdansk 84 > 76 (August 82 > 79)
Amsterdam – Geneva 164 > 162 (August only)
Amsterdam – Genoa 39 > 36 (August 36 > 33)
Amsterdam – Gothenburg 150 > 143 (August 153 > 148)
Amsterdam – Graz 21 > 19 (July only)
Amsterdam – Hamburg 142 > 136 (August 142 > 134)
Amsterdam – Hannover 74 > 72 (July only)
Amsterdam – Helsinki 94 > 92 (August 96 > 92)
Amsterdam – Inverness 55 > 54 (July only)
Amsterdam – Krakow 89 > 86 (August 88 > 80)
Amsterdam – Kristiansand 60 > 59 (August only)
Amsterdam – Leeds/Bradford 82 > 76 (August 82 > 76)
Amsterdam – Lisbon 120 > 118 (August 119 > 116)
Amsterdam – London City 165 > 163 (August 169 > 168)
Amsterdam – London Heathrow 285 > 275 (August 295 > 286)
Amsterdam – Luxembourg 86 > 80 (August 88 > 79)
Amsterdam – Lyon 121 > 108 (August 122 > 115)
Amsterdam – Madrid 154 > 151 (August 153 > 149)
Amsterdam – Manchester 177 > 175 (August 180 > 174)
Amsterdam – Montpellier 42 > 40 (August 38 > 32)
Amsterdam – Munich 152 > 146 (August 156 > 155)
Amsterdam – Newcastle 120 > 106 (August 122 > 113)
Amsterdam – Nice 121 > 117 (August 123 > 117)
Amsterdam – Norwich 74 > 72 (August only)
Amsterdam – Nuremberg 87 > 83 (August 90 > 84)
Amsterdam – Oslo 186 > 176 (August 186 > 172)
Amsterdam – Paris CDG 150 > 144 (August 154 > 152)
Amsterdam – Poznan 28 > 25 (August 29 > 22)
Amsterdam – Prague 120 > 113 (August 122 > 117)
Amsterdam – Rome 155 > 151 (August 155 > 148)
Amsterdam – Stavanger 120 > 117 (August 122 > 121)
Amsterdam – Stockholm Arlanda 160 > 158 (August 162 > 158)
Amsterdam – Stuttgart 124 > 120 (August 127 > 123)
Amsterdam – Teesside 51 > 45 (August 57 > 53)
Amsterdam – Toulouse 94 > 84 (August 93 > 83)
Amsterdam – Trondheim 93 > 91 (July only)
Amsterdam – Turin 32 > 26 (August 33 > 29)
Amsterdam – Valencia 60 > 59 (August 64 > 61)
Amsterdam – Venice 119 > 116 (August 121 > 118)
Amsterdam – Warsaw 121 > 117 (August 121 > 114)
Amsterdam – Wroclaw 31 > 26 (August 31 > 28)
Amsterdam – Zagreb 60 > 59 (July only)
Amsterdam – Zurich 150 > 145 (August 154 > 145)
Additional changes may be filed in the next few days
Check your bookings if you are affected!
https://insideflyer.nl/op-deze-64-eu...egeling-terug/
and
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220620-kljul22eu?rq=Klm%20
Their infirmation:
Planned July/August 2022 frequency adjustment, based on schedule comparison 05JUN22 vs 19JUN22:
Amsterdam – Aalborg111 > 108 flights (August 114 > 108)
Amsterdam – Aberdeen 121 > 118 (August 125 > 118)
Amsterdam – Barcelona 160 > 158 (August 159 > 154)
Amsterdam – Belfast 29 > 25 (August only)
Amsterdam – Bergen 123 > 118 (July only)
Amsterdam – Berlin 205 > 194 (August 211 > 205)
Amsterdam – Billund 123 > 115 (August 127 > 123)
Amsterdam – Birmingham 125 > 121 (August 127 > 120)
Amsterdam – Bologna 93 > 92 (July only)
Amsterdam – Bordeaux 118 > 116 (August 117 > 115)
Amsterdam – Brussels 124 > 112 (August 124 > 122)
Amsterdam – Bucharest 84 > 82 (August 88 > 79)
Amsterdam – Cardiff 52 > 48 (August 53 > 48)
Amsterdam – Copenhagen 184 > 182 (August 186 > 184)
Amsterdam – Cork 58 > 55 (August 60 > 58)
Amsterdam – Dresden 28 > 25 (August 28 > 24)
Amsterdam – Dublin 146 > 135 (August 150 > 141)
Amsterdam – Dusseldorf 121 > 114 (August 125 > 124)
Amsterdam – Edinburgh 124 > 116 (August 124 > 122)
Amsterdam – Florence 134 > 131 (August 132 > 126)
Amsterdam – Frankfurt 135 > 132 (August 137 > 133)
Amsterdam – Gdansk 84 > 76 (August 82 > 79)
Amsterdam – Geneva 164 > 162 (August only)
Amsterdam – Genoa 39 > 36 (August 36 > 33)
Amsterdam – Gothenburg 150 > 143 (August 153 > 148)
Amsterdam – Graz 21 > 19 (July only)
Amsterdam – Hamburg 142 > 136 (August 142 > 134)
Amsterdam – Hannover 74 > 72 (July only)
Amsterdam – Helsinki 94 > 92 (August 96 > 92)
Amsterdam – Inverness 55 > 54 (July only)
Amsterdam – Krakow 89 > 86 (August 88 > 80)
Amsterdam – Kristiansand 60 > 59 (August only)
Amsterdam – Leeds/Bradford 82 > 76 (August 82 > 76)
Amsterdam – Lisbon 120 > 118 (August 119 > 116)
Amsterdam – London City 165 > 163 (August 169 > 168)
Amsterdam – London Heathrow 285 > 275 (August 295 > 286)
Amsterdam – Luxembourg 86 > 80 (August 88 > 79)
Amsterdam – Lyon 121 > 108 (August 122 > 115)
Amsterdam – Madrid 154 > 151 (August 153 > 149)
Amsterdam – Manchester 177 > 175 (August 180 > 174)
Amsterdam – Montpellier 42 > 40 (August 38 > 32)
Amsterdam – Munich 152 > 146 (August 156 > 155)
Amsterdam – Newcastle 120 > 106 (August 122 > 113)
Amsterdam – Nice 121 > 117 (August 123 > 117)
Amsterdam – Norwich 74 > 72 (August only)
Amsterdam – Nuremberg 87 > 83 (August 90 > 84)
Amsterdam – Oslo 186 > 176 (August 186 > 172)
Amsterdam – Paris CDG 150 > 144 (August 154 > 152)
Amsterdam – Poznan 28 > 25 (August 29 > 22)
Amsterdam – Prague 120 > 113 (August 122 > 117)
Amsterdam – Rome 155 > 151 (August 155 > 148)
Amsterdam – Stavanger 120 > 117 (August 122 > 121)
Amsterdam – Stockholm Arlanda 160 > 158 (August 162 > 158)
Amsterdam – Stuttgart 124 > 120 (August 127 > 123)
Amsterdam – Teesside 51 > 45 (August 57 > 53)
Amsterdam – Toulouse 94 > 84 (August 93 > 83)
Amsterdam – Trondheim 93 > 91 (July only)
Amsterdam – Turin 32 > 26 (August 33 > 29)
Amsterdam – Valencia 60 > 59 (August 64 > 61)
Amsterdam – Venice 119 > 116 (August 121 > 118)
Amsterdam – Warsaw 121 > 117 (August 121 > 114)
Amsterdam – Wroclaw 31 > 26 (August 31 > 28)
Amsterdam – Zagreb 60 > 59 (July only)
Amsterdam – Zurich 150 > 145 (August 154 > 145)
Additional changes may be filed in the next few days
Check your bookings if you are affected!
#1203
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Delta DM, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,493
Tip 1:
Follow twitter # Schiphol > latest
https://twitter.com/hashtag/schiphol?f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23klm&...d_query&f=live
to get an idea of queues at the airport reported by twitter users
Tip 2 : concerning Kmar passport control
these are the passports the E-gates accept:
EU: Schengen countries
Switserland
USA
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
South Korea
Japan
Hongkong
If the E-gates actually work, you can use above pictured countries' passports to use them
An explaination if they work: https://magazines.defensie.nl/kmarma...genlijk_8-2015
---------------------
If you hold an UK passport:
https://www.schiphol.nl/en/page/brexit/
As a British passenger,
you may no longer use the automated passport control system upon arrival.
Instead, follow the ‘all passports’ signs to a manual desk.
You may still use the automated passport control system upon departure, however.
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee will then stamp your passport
Follow twitter # Schiphol > latest
https://twitter.com/hashtag/schiphol?f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23klm&...d_query&f=live
to get an idea of queues at the airport reported by twitter users
Tip 2 : concerning Kmar passport control
these are the passports the E-gates accept:
EU: Schengen countries
Switserland
USA
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
South Korea
Japan
Hongkong
If the E-gates actually work, you can use above pictured countries' passports to use them
An explaination if they work: https://magazines.defensie.nl/kmarma...genlijk_8-2015
---------------------
If you hold an UK passport:
https://www.schiphol.nl/en/page/brexit/
As a British passenger,
you may no longer use the automated passport control system upon arrival.
Instead, follow the ‘all passports’ signs to a manual desk.
You may still use the automated passport control system upon departure, however.
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee will then stamp your passport
Checks for transfer passengers
Transfer passengers arriving from the UK do not need to pass through Security Control again at Schiphol and must only go through Passport Control if they cross the Schengen border.The Schiphol website still says: "You can use the automatic gates if you are 16 or over and hold an EU passport that contains a microchip."
#1204
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,457
EDIT: *by which I mean departing the Schengen area
Last edited by etiene; Jun 23, 2022 at 1:38 am
#1206
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NYS
Programs: Days of Our Lives, General Hospital
Posts: 1,495
I was about to ask the same question!
#1207
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NYS
Programs: Days of Our Lives, General Hospital
Posts: 1,495
#1208
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: VLC
Programs: FB Plat (Y3), All Accor Gold (Y2)
Posts: 640
#1209
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CT
Programs: Marriott-LT Titanium; AA-LT Gold/Currently Plat Pro
Posts: 208
I read this morning also in the Dutch Review that there might end up being some sort of class action suit against Schipol for all the people who missed their flights and the airline either int rebook or wouldn't refund.
What an absolute mess...I have a daughter flying out on June 29 and her boyfriend flying out three days later.
And one other question...has anyone here every use the Yotelair inside Schipol for the night before? The price is ridiculous but still a heck of a lot cheaper than buying last minute tickets to the States. I am also reading reports of people using this to make sure they are through the queues the night before.
#1210
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Programs: KL Gold, SQ KF Gold, CX Green
Posts: 9,396
They queued for another two hours at the transit desk and were told they could not be rebooked on another flight to Barcelona that day. They went home and are still waiting for their bags. Fortunately the weather was nice today and I saw on Facebook they were in Bloemendaal.
#1211
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Data point from yesterday:
- 11.20 a.m. Schengen to non-Schengen. eGates all open, no queues there or at the manned desks. I forgot to check how many of the latter were open.
- 13.20 p.m. Non-Schengen to Schengen. eGates all open, not even a handful of pax using them. Every single manned desk open. There was a crowd waiting in line, but the queue did not extend beyond the tensabarriers.
In both instances I was the only one using Privium, and through in 30 seconds or so.
Johan
- 11.20 a.m. Schengen to non-Schengen. eGates all open, no queues there or at the manned desks. I forgot to check how many of the latter were open.
- 13.20 p.m. Non-Schengen to Schengen. eGates all open, not even a handful of pax using them. Every single manned desk open. There was a crowd waiting in line, but the queue did not extend beyond the tensabarriers.
In both instances I was the only one using Privium, and through in 30 seconds or so.
Johan
#1212
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 2,476
Data point from yesterday:
- 11.20 a.m. Schengen to non-Schengen. eGates all open, no queues there or at the manned desks. I forgot to check how many of the latter were open.
- 13.20 p.m. Non-Schengen to Schengen. eGates all open, not even a handful of pax using them. Every single manned desk open. There was a crowd waiting in line, but the queue did not extend beyond the tensabarriers.
In both instances I was the only one using Privium, and through in 30 seconds or so.
Johan
- 11.20 a.m. Schengen to non-Schengen. eGates all open, no queues there or at the manned desks. I forgot to check how many of the latter were open.
- 13.20 p.m. Non-Schengen to Schengen. eGates all open, not even a handful of pax using them. Every single manned desk open. There was a crowd waiting in line, but the queue did not extend beyond the tensabarriers.
In both instances I was the only one using Privium, and through in 30 seconds or so.
Johan
#1213
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: LAX, SNA, LGB
Posts: 450
Sounds like a YMMV. The better half will be flying out of AMS on Sunday 26 10AM ish to DBV. Will be staying at Sheraton the night before. How is DBV handled being part of EU but non-schengen, will they need to go through passport control? Will they be able to travel with just a EU ID?
#1214
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Programs: KL Gold, SQ KF Gold, CX Green
Posts: 9,396
Sounds like a YMMV. The better half will be flying out of AMS on Sunday 26 10AM ish to DBV. Will be staying at Sheraton the night before. How is DBV handled being part of EU but non-schengen, will they need to go through passport control? Will they be able to travel with just a EU ID?