Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards

Old Jun 21, 2022, 1:49 am
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I am normally a huge fan of Schiphol but this last weekend trip we took to Valencia we went via CDG instead of AMS and it was certainly the correct decision. It means an extra 120 miles to start our journey in Edinburgh instead of the 20 miles it is to our closest airport but worth it in the end. We even got put on an earlier flight for no additional cost thus meaning getting home 4 hours earlier than was in our booking.

I have flights via AMS next Monday/Tuesday, last arrival from Aberdeen, first departure to Paris so I assume Non Schengen to Schengen passport control is open 24 hours so I can go through in the wee small hours as no intention of leaving the airside as zero desire in having to wait in these crazy security lines.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by etiene
The E pier is in non-Schengen, so I presume you mean the opposite direction?
​​​​​​Yes, post above corrected.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by jerry_greece
By the way, this is now fixed for me. While the message above remains (i.e. if higher fare type, difference is charged) once you proceed, 0EUR is quoted to change the flights.

I am wondering, are these changes unlimited? Or is only the first change for free? How smart is their IT?
I was too quick to say it was fixed. Tried to make a change and got to the pax. confirmation and saw this:

"We're sorry, something went wrong here.
Sorry, because of a technical issue on our end, it's not possible to complete your booking online.

Alternatively, you can complete your booking by phone."
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrZ
Wow that's crazy. Even going hand luggage only and staying airside I might not make my second flight with on time arrival and two hour connection
You may if you say you are on a short connection and let you pass part of the queue. But it is not nice to do this.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 2:37 am
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This is what I could see when transiting Amsterdam on Sunday. It was taken from the walkway leading out to pier B.

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Old Jun 21, 2022, 3:15 am
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hi

a friend will fly with TK to AMS , transit one night lanside in amsterdam and then UA the day after to IAH , what about queues for such journey ?

I suggested her to not leave the NS area and sleep in mercure , i know here its KL not UA but any idea if UA will allow online checkin and if its possible to fly with to the US with electronic BP only ??

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Old Jun 21, 2022, 3:34 am
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Hi,

i was messaged on whats app by KLM saying i can change my schipol flight with no change fee and no fare difference as i am due to be travelling from manchester - amsterdam - lima this friday.

but when i try to change the flight to a different one it wants me to pay 600. Is this an error or have i misread the message on klm website.

i actually booked the flight through air france could that be the problem?
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 3:45 am
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Originally Posted by Tom Jacobsen
Hi,

i was messaged on whats app by KLM saying i can change my schipol flight with no change fee and no fare difference as i am due to be travelling from manchester - amsterdam - lima this friday.

but when i try to change the flight to a different one it wants me to pay 600. Is this an error or have i misread the message on klm website.

i actually booked the flight through air france could that be the problem?
Welcome to FT!

Reports above suggest that the website isn't working well for this anyway, though indeed an Air France ticket could be another wrinkle - you will probably have to call [there's supposed to be a WhatApp channel for customer service I think, but personally I've never had a reply in any kind of useable timeframe so I wouldn't bother with that].
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 3:47 am
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Originally Posted by jambochris
The queue from non Schengen to Schengen currently stretches to the E pier. Looks v. slow. The stairs down to passport control at the end of both D and E piers are also closed, not many people queuing yet....
These queues have gone now, it's so unpredictable.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 3:55 am
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Meet and assist for arrival?

I am due to arrive on SQ 324, business, 7.45 am from Singapore in July *shudder

Pre covid, I remember the line was long even though I was the first to disembark.

Are lines at morning arrival from non schengen still long exceeding one hour? I assume luggage will take one hour so if the line is usually longer than 1 hour, I will book Schiphol meet and assist arrival.

I already book the meet and assist for departure SQ 323, 11.15 AM.

Thanks
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 4:12 am
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I Will arrive on SQ 324 in July. 7 30 am arrival from Changi. Non EU passport.

Are morning flights immigration lately packed? More specifically, does it take one hour to clear?

I expect to wait one hour for luggage so if the line takes longer than 1 hour, maybe it makes more sense to book Meet and Assist Schiphol arrival?
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 4:15 am
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Battlefield Report

Arrived by car just after 11 a.m.

- No people waiting outside.

- Access to T2 via door F, no queues.

- Inside, the line to the security access scanners stretched to the far end of T1, as far as I could see.

- Took a few pics, went around the corner to the "back door", used the Privium scanner. Escalator up was supervised, eligibility checked of those who did not use the Privium access. The agent told me lines had been horrendous earlier this morning.

- upstairs only access to T2 security. Route to T1 roped off, and there was a seething mass of people zigging and zagging along.

- the Privium scanner gave direct access to priority checkpoint #4, thus cutting in front of the the priority line. However . . . a lady in a Schiphol jacket soon showed and told me to go to the back of the line, saying that Privium was not entitled to priority any more. As the line was only a dozen or so people long, it was not worth arguing about.

- security itself took ten minutes in all, very few bags went to secondary.

- decided to skip the Privium Express Lounge (closes at 1 p.m.) and head straight to the Privium West Lounge.

- Schengen to non-Schengen immigrations very quiet, E-gates open. Was through in seconds with Privium.

- car to lounge < 25 minutes.







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Old Jun 21, 2022, 4:23 am
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Addendum

Just after 11 this morning I counted three open regular T2 security lanes, and one priority lane. Not sure how many there are in all, but they can't have been at even 25% of capacity.

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Old Jun 21, 2022, 4:24 am
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I think I should have my FT credentials revoked because I just canceled my AMS-BER flight on Thursday to just take a train. I can't stand the frustration of this absolute mess so I am just going to avoid it. I'll see how it's going next month when flying TATL.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 4:37 am
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Zapping yesterday on TV,
i bumped into NPO1 broadcast "Max vakantieman" about Schiphol airport.
Viewable online: https://www.maxvandaag.nl/programmas.../POW_05294144/

- EUclaim says Schiphol have been going in a cascade failure since ascencion day, noting that at present Schiphol is not even operating at max prepandemic capacity
- EUclaim claims also that Ascencion day flights (that travelled back empty) were not cancelled but passengers were denied boarding, meaning compensation is due min. €250
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