wooootles

Thanks for the feedback. I am on KL1127 and FlightAware seems to be showing that it's also somewhat reliable (maybe late a few times), but no cancellations.
Looks like the earlier the flight on AMS-CPH, the better.

Sjoerd

My (non-status) friends were in the line for KLM bag drop at 9AM for their 2:15PM flight to BCN, queued ~4 hours for security and just missed their flight, queued another ~2 hours at the KLM transfer desk to be re-booked, to be told “no other flight available today, go home” and your bags will be delivered within 4 days.

Avoid AMS at all costs this summer.

Fabo.sk

Where did you find it was published 7 June 22? This is the article for the closure of Departures 1 check for when it was moved upstairs, this is pre-pandemic.

I expect Benschot to remain firmly at the throne as long as Lelystad is given a go-ahead.

I can not figure out another reason why the Schiphol management is carrying on in the way they are than to put pressure on the government to approve operations at Lelystad in opposition to enviro/NIMBY groups. Lelystad is owned by Schiphol Group; they have eminent interest in being able to open LEY for commercial traffic to enable future growth in both Schiphol itself and the Group.

I will never understand why they ever close the lines.

Clearly, if they spared one officer from one of the EU booths to supervise the gates, the gates could process much more pax than he could in the booth - increasing the total throughput a lot.

Is it some kind of a seniority issue? Only select officers are allowed to supervise the e-gates and there is a shortage of them? Or what? I don't get it.

Not from Schengen. NS flights are affected by long lines at immigration.

HadesNL

[QUOTE=Fabo.sk;34353346]
Where did you find it was published 7 June 22? This is the article for the closure of Departures 1 check for when it was moved upstairs, this is pre-pandemic. QUOTE]

You were right,
I got the date from the Schiphol warning banner above the news release.
Already amended my post, thanks for noticing!

johan rebel

Yes, that flight rarely gets canceled, and a delay might even be to your advantage, giving you more time for your transfer.

Johan

wooootles

Then I will just have to worry about the DTW-AMS part, which has had some delays (AMS/KLM does not have a monopoly on epic meltdowns).

atflyer

No, I said when I passed I estimated it at < 2 hours. But as you will note in this thread, at any moment anything can happen. A breeze passing things in 10 minutes, or 4 hours of queueing, missing your flight, queueing at customer support and being told there is no place anymore anywhere the same day. Hit or miss. I just have to pray the 2 flights I still must do on Sunday and Tuesday in the late afternoon next week will not be a mess.

atflyer

Me neither. The only explanation I can give that when I passed, there was 1 officer for the EU line and 2 or 3 for the non-EU. Obviously, the EU officer could not move to the automatic gates since there are always souls that need manual inspection. Moving one from the non-EU boots would slow down the already much longer non EU line even more. But still. Can't you plan lunches without closing automated gates? Surreal. THe problem is in part also efficient control. An immigration officer looking for 2 second to a passport or taking much longer. LCY this morning was extremely crowded, but the security so efficient, so despite the horrible queues in 30 minutes through. Low times per pax, low numbers of secondary. So much better as LHR the day before or what I see at AMS where belts regularly are stopped since secondary is clogged, or so.....

Fabo.sk

Except that Non-EU line is really the All Passports line, so overall capacity will still be higher... the question then stands how was the waiting time for EU line vs All passports line... if EU line was still considerably shorter despite having 1/3 capacity of All passports... then I suppose it made some sense.

FlyingFrZ

Wow that's crazy. Even going hand luggage only and staying airside I might not make my second flight with on time arrival and two hour connection

malmostoso

Parents in law landed on SQ324 this morning at 7:40. Managed to get through KMar around 8:15, they are now waiting for an hour at baggage claim. They have been advised the wait will be another two hours, as there is only one trolley driver available so flights are offloaded FIFO.

mfkne

At this point I would just leave baggage claim and go about my business and report missing luggage so they can deliver it later.

jambochris

The queue from non Schengen to Schengen currently stretches to the E pier. Looks v. slow. The stairs down to passport control at the end of both D and E piers are also closed, not many people queuing yet....

b12e

I'm flying one more time through AMS against knowing better, but the ticket was just a lot cheaper (and timing better) with an AMS layover rather than non-stop from CPH on SAS (and I refuse to fly Vueling).

It's schengen->schengen, but with a 40 minute layover. So I'm betting on my CPH->AMS flight not being delayed, and if it is, the outbound flight to BCN also being delayed, as it's going to be a B -> C/D transit so quite the walk, unless it being a bus gate, then it's OK-ish.

But this is definitely the last time I go through AMS until after summer. You'd have to pay me to go through it again.

etiene

The E pier is in non-Schengen, so I presume you mean the opposite direction?

I'm flying out on U2 [non-Schengen] on Thursday at 7, arriving by train. I have Privium so should be alright - I assume there is some crowd management from the main hall up to departures and that I will be able to show my card to avoid any queues?