mb752

Oh, no, of course, I wasn't proposing just no-showing for the first leg. I meant to ask KLM ahead of time if they might let me change the ticket to just LHR-JFK without a reprice, given the issues at AMS. I know they usually wouldn't, but sometimes in the past airlines have been somewhat more flexible for me in situations like these, so I'm just curious if anyone has tried asking them something like this in the current situation.

Xandrios

Thanks. Married segments were showing the same availability so it seems no luck. I�ll give up and try to fly 06:40AM tomorrow.

Had to change trains at Schiphol just now and went upstairs to take a look at the situation. Almost no pax at this time. Sky priority desk is supposed to open 04:30 every morning. There will be a line of pax waiting at that point, however they said it would not be too crowded at that time. According to them it is most crowded around 7-8AM.

evol

The subtlety of difference between "refund" perhaps colloquially, between a travel voucher for the full amount of original fare and a full cash refund returned to your original form of payment.

I am looking for a cash refund outright. Flying KL is an anomaly for me, I live in Hawai�i far far away and am not really a Sky Team guy. However if push comes to shove Iʻll take the travel voucher.

HadesNL

Just announced:
https://nos.nl/artikel/2433095-schiphol-moet-extra-veel-passagiers-teleurstellen-op-piekdagen-in-juli

https://slotcoordination.nl/update-on-capacity-situation-ams-s22-introduction-of-temporary-terminal-parameter/


and for more background information:
https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/economie/ar...-sta-je-de-rij


Dutch Slotco�rdinator establishes 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 23 July as peak days,

Dissapointed passengers unavoidable as commitment to flights cancellations on those days!

More news to follow next week,
passengers should be informed by their airlines about their July flights

EDIT:
Which flights still operating or cancelled, shall be announced next week
Welke vluchten wel of niet door kunnen gaan, maakt slot-co�rdinator ACNL volgende week bekend
https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/243...hade-opleveren


Source:
Vanaf begin volgende week krijgen reizigers die in juli vanaf Schiphol vliegen meer duidelijkheid over het doorgaan van hun vlucht. Nu al staat vast dat er zes dagen zijn waarop relatief veel passagiers teleurgesteld moeten worden.

Slotco�rdinator ACNL (Airport Coordination Netherlands) laat weten dat 13, 14, 18, 19, 20 en 23 juli piekdagen zijn op de luchthaven.


Capacity declaration:
https://slotcoordination.nl


Note: 7th July more info about possibility of August flight cancellations


Sources: RTL news & APOC (Schiphol Airport Operation Centre)





Note:
For local departures prediction
every day a colour to denote operating capacity
purple : meltdown !



No mention about the summer arrivals situation yet:
- less groundstaff,
- limited Kmar passport control / E-gates
- less luggage handlers
I predict chaos at the arrivals halls this summer........

So flee and save yourselves from the agony and despair!

johan rebel

All my summer AMS flights are on Tuesdays. I had no way of knowing at the time, but I could have picked a worse day.

Johan

HadesNL

Luck favours the wise and smiles amongst the foolish,
Let's hope your Tuesday flights at least get the proper Marcel Wanders boxes to celebrate

bakersdozen

So any recommendations if your flying through on one of these days (intra-EU schengen - AMS-GVA-AMS). Currently with KLM but is going with someone like Swiss a safer bet?

johan rebel

Only Schiphol had the bright idea of postponing major runway maintenance and then rescheduling it for the 2022 spring break and summer vacation peak season. That's unique enough for me.

And you do get transportation and accommodation providers that have no staffing issues and operate normally. Confidence instead of circumspection, taking the long-term view, hanging on to staff to the greatest extent possible, a minimum of redundancies . . . all that helps.

Johan

BubbaX

My last AMS transfer was 2 hours, and I netted an EC 261/4 voucher for more than there price of the ticket. I would have gotten one both ways, but I was proactive in my CDG re-route and got in the "wrong" 2E hall and talked the gate agents into issuing me a BP.
Now I'm looking at a 90-min transfer on Friday, and the dude on the PSL says "no need to rebook: you have plenty of time". Also, the next flight to my destination arrives five hours later.
Yeah, at this rate, I better go for cash reimbursements.

johan rebel

Thank you so much for your good wishes.

Maybe I'm counting my KLM chickens before they hatch here. Things can surely go haywire on Tuesdays too. All it takes is a gentle northeasterly, a clap of thunder, or a CEO called Benschop. Time will tell!

Johan

HadesNL

LoL:
your logic is undeniable,
surprising a psychic can be most tiresome!

HadesNL

Swiss (LX) operates from T1A which has its own security filter and from there on is a short walk to the gates.
Problem is getting inside from T1 to T1A as you need to reach the connector while battling the hordes trying to reach checkin/security in T1/T2.

hi55us

Have a flight coming up on July 7th AMS-MSP (09:45am departure). Unfortunately I can't realistically book other airports as I need to be in Amsterdam and I'm trying to do my best to prepare for the airport security there. Fortunately will be in J, which gets me Skypriority access.

For the night before my flight I'm debating staying at the Schiphol Sheraton right at the airport, the Hilton right at the airport or sticking with our hotel near Centraal station. From what I've read on this thread, might it be better staying downtown and hopping on a train out to Schiphol? Or should I plan on spending the night right at the airport terminal. Thanks in advance.

FlyingFrZ

What does it mean if the date doesn't have a color attached to it? July 2nd is just blank

BubbaX

The only other operator for that route is EasyJet. For LX, you'd have to change in Zurich, or just take a train from there.