Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
#828
Join Date: Jun 2022
Programs: Flying Blue Gold | Marriott Titanium
Posts: 169
I'm traveling back to AMS through CDG next week Saturday... I'm contemplating whether I have to change my flight to fly directly to AMS (from outside Schengen) to avoid the possibility of the CDG AMS flight being cancelled... besides passport control in AMS will be faster since I have Privium
#829
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
Programs: Lufthansa: Senator || IHG: Diamond Royal Ambassador Inner Circle || Plutonium Status
Posts: 3,500
Compensation within 7 days
KLM offers conpenstion within 7 days,
Judgment is done on the following facts:
- per flight
- circumstances of flight cancellation
- European guidelines
- reason of flight cancellation
- length of delay
- rebooking done or not
- extra costs within reason
in Dutch:Het bedrijf zegt de aanvragen van reizigers zo snel mogelijk in behandeling te nemen. "Daarbij kijken we per vlucht en per geval wat de omstandigheden van de annulering waren en volgen we de Europese richtlijnen", aldus de maatschappij.
"We kijken bijvoorbeeld naar de reden van annulering, duur van de vertraging en of wel of geen omboeking heeft plaatsgevonden." Verder kijkt de vliegmaatschappij naar extra kosten. "Iedereen die recht heeft op compensatie, compenseren wij en betalen wij binnen de hiervoor gestelde termijn van zeven dagen."
Source
https://www.nu.nl/economie/6204952/k...vergoeden.html
in perspective:
https://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/alle...w.google.nl%2F
Judgment is done on the following facts:
- per flight
- circumstances of flight cancellation
- European guidelines
- reason of flight cancellation
- length of delay
- rebooking done or not
- extra costs within reason
in Dutch:Het bedrijf zegt de aanvragen van reizigers zo snel mogelijk in behandeling te nemen. "Daarbij kijken we per vlucht en per geval wat de omstandigheden van de annulering waren en volgen we de Europese richtlijnen", aldus de maatschappij.
"We kijken bijvoorbeeld naar de reden van annulering, duur van de vertraging en of wel of geen omboeking heeft plaatsgevonden." Verder kijkt de vliegmaatschappij naar extra kosten. "Iedereen die recht heeft op compensatie, compenseren wij en betalen wij binnen de hiervoor gestelde termijn van zeven dagen."
Source
https://www.nu.nl/economie/6204952/k...vergoeden.html
in perspective:
https://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/alle...w.google.nl%2F
Last edited by HadesNL; Jun 6, 2022 at 11:56 am
#830
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
As a point of comparison - CPH this morning.
Train to lounge took 18 minutes.
- no queues to security access.
- I was the only one through CPH Express (i.e. priority).
- 26 pax ahead of me, the vast majority obviously not priority pax.
- the next six pax who joined the line behind me all came through the Express access point.
- there was a separate adjacent line for pax with young kids. They fed a whole family into the priority line by mistake. Luckily not the one with eight small children that came before them.
- regular pax were drip-fed into the priority line, it seems the idea was to keep the queue at about two dozen.
- two pax with steamer trunks were stopped at the access point. They seemed to think they qualified as hand luggage.
- a gent came running/pushing/shoving past, hollering "I have a flight at 10:20!". The time was 10:10, but everybody decided to indulge him
- security itself was a breeze, as usual at CPH.
- the regular line zigged twice and zagged another two times. Shortly after I arrived, there was a large influx of pax.
There's a guy across from me in the lounge conducting a loud telephone conversation (what else is new?). He told his interlocutor that he missed his flight in spite of getting to the airport two hours before STD. Blamed security.
Johan
- no queues to security access.
- I was the only one through CPH Express (i.e. priority).
- 26 pax ahead of me, the vast majority obviously not priority pax.
- the next six pax who joined the line behind me all came through the Express access point.
- there was a separate adjacent line for pax with young kids. They fed a whole family into the priority line by mistake. Luckily not the one with eight small children that came before them.
- regular pax were drip-fed into the priority line, it seems the idea was to keep the queue at about two dozen.
- two pax with steamer trunks were stopped at the access point. They seemed to think they qualified as hand luggage.
- a gent came running/pushing/shoving past, hollering "I have a flight at 10:20!". The time was 10:10, but everybody decided to indulge him
- security itself was a breeze, as usual at CPH.
- the regular line zigged twice and zagged another two times. Shortly after I arrived, there was a large influx of pax.
There's a guy across from me in the lounge conducting a loud telephone conversation (what else is new?). He told his interlocutor that he missed his flight in spite of getting to the airport two hours before STD. Blamed security.
Johan
#831
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: VLC
Programs: FB Plat (Y3), All Accor Gold (Y2)
Posts: 641
Train to lounge took 18 minutes.
- no queues to security access.
- I was the only one through CPH Express (i.e. priority).
- 26 pax ahead of me, the vast majority obviously not priority pax.
- the next six pax who joined the line behind me all came through the Express access point.
- there was a separate adjacent line for pax with young kids. They fed a whole family into the priority line by mistake. Luckily not the one with eight small children that came before them.
- regular pax were drip-fed into the priority line, it seems the idea was to keep the queue at about two dozen.
- two pax with steamer trunks were stopped at the access point. They seemed to think they qualified as hand luggage.
- a gent came running/pushing/shoving past, hollering "I have a flight at 10:20!". The time was 10:10, but everybody decided to indulge him
- security itself was a breeze, as usual at CPH.
- the regular line zigged twice and zagged another two times. Shortly after I arrived, there was a large influx of pax.
There's a guy across from me in the lounge conducting a loud telephone conversation (what else is new?). He told his interlocutor that he missed his flight in spite of getting to the airport two hours before STD. Blamed security.
Johan
- no queues to security access.
- I was the only one through CPH Express (i.e. priority).
- 26 pax ahead of me, the vast majority obviously not priority pax.
- the next six pax who joined the line behind me all came through the Express access point.
- there was a separate adjacent line for pax with young kids. They fed a whole family into the priority line by mistake. Luckily not the one with eight small children that came before them.
- regular pax were drip-fed into the priority line, it seems the idea was to keep the queue at about two dozen.
- two pax with steamer trunks were stopped at the access point. They seemed to think they qualified as hand luggage.
- a gent came running/pushing/shoving past, hollering "I have a flight at 10:20!". The time was 10:10, but everybody decided to indulge him
- security itself was a breeze, as usual at CPH.
- the regular line zigged twice and zagged another two times. Shortly after I arrived, there was a large influx of pax.
There's a guy across from me in the lounge conducting a loud telephone conversation (what else is new?). He told his interlocutor that he missed his flight in spite of getting to the airport two hours before STD. Blamed security.
Johan
I'll update this message tomorrow, when family has to go through security around 4pm (non-express).
I've seen queues all all the way until the end of the upper deck in terminal 2 though, a week or two ago. Boy was I happy I could walk past them all with CPH Express access. Would've taken me over half an hour probably just to reach the boarding pass scanners to get access to security.
edit "tomorrow":
- really quiet at the airport
- security without status on economy ticket: 5-10 minutes
- bag drop 1 minutes queue, at the automatic drop-off belt
- flight delayed by 20 minutes due to prior delay
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Last edited by b12e; Jun 8, 2022 at 10:02 am
#832
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
I never looked at the signs, but train to access about three minutes, and another three to the lounge, so CPH Express itself about 12 minutes. The lane processed just over two pax per minute, which I figure is pretty efficient.
Johan
Johan
#834
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 81
This morning:
06:15 Arrival @ AMS
06:35 in Lounge 52
SkyPriority checkin was quiet, only 1 person max in the queue for the desks. Upstairs, SkyPriority passengers were sent left to the security filter above Departures 1 with 2 lanes open. Border control had no queue.
06:15 Arrival @ AMS
06:35 in Lounge 52
SkyPriority checkin was quiet, only 1 person max in the queue for the desks. Upstairs, SkyPriority passengers were sent left to the security filter above Departures 1 with 2 lanes open. Border control had no queue.
#835
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MAD
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 249
I've seen this the last two weeks also: upstairs Privium gate feeding into the nearest security filter, but the SkyPriority gates sending passengers to the left, around the elevators, to the security filter above Departures 1.
#836
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21
Seems like Schiphol VIP is also currently overwhelmed. Failed to make a booking ~5 weeks in advance (admittedly for a Friday 4:30pm departure). You now need to send them an email (rather than use the website booking flow) so they can send you an automated response saying to expect no reply. Wonder if Schiphol will lean into their newfound awareness of what could be a very profitable revenue stream.
#837
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: BRE
Programs: Flying Blue Ultimate, LATAM Black, Vistara Gold, Accor/IHG Platinum, Marriott/Hilton Gold
Posts: 480
Seems like Schiphol VIP is also currently overwhelmed. Failed to make a booking ~5 weeks in advance (admittedly for a Friday 4:30pm departure). You now need to send them an email (rather than use the website booking flow) so they can send you an automated response saying to expect no reply. Wonder if Schiphol will lean into their newfound awareness of what could be a very profitable revenue stream.
#838
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Johan
#839
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Atlanta
Programs: Delta PL, Hilton Diamond, past AA Gold
Posts: 167
Monday Update report. from arriving at the airport to lounge in 30 min. having Sky priority helped. Not sure how long the lines were. the lounge was very busy but large to accommodate everyone so no issues getting seats or refreshments. Good luck to everyone.
#840
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 81
It's interesting b/c in the last two weeks I've taken 3 flights from AMS, and this is the first time SkyPriority was redirected to the left. At least the line moved fast