Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Apr 24, 22, 3:54 am
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As an example, KL1341 AMS-BLL was on time, yet the return KL1342 is now expected an hour late. Maybe later, because although the aircraft pushed back only 12 minutes behind schedule, it is currently still on the ground at BLL, presumably waiting for a slot. No doubt due to the single runway available for landings.
Apr 24, 22, 4:05 am
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Apr 24, 22, 4:10 am
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Early morning it was mainly the incoming longhauls that were severely delayed (2 - 4+ hours), but starting midmorning just about every incoming KL flight is running late, mostly 30 - 60 minutes.
As an example, KL1341 AMS-BLL was on time, yet the return KL1342 is now expected an hour late. Maybe later, because although the aircraft pushed back only 12 minutes behind schedule, it is currently still on the ground at BLL, presumably waiting for a slot. No doubt due to the single runway available for landings.
Schiphol's decision to close two runways for maintenance simultaneously is surely the brightest idea in commercial aviation so far this year.
As an example, KL1341 AMS-BLL was on time, yet the return KL1342 is now expected an hour late. Maybe later, because although the aircraft pushed back only 12 minutes behind schedule, it is currently still on the ground at BLL, presumably waiting for a slot. No doubt due to the single runway available for landings.
Schiphol's decision to close two runways for maintenance simultaneously is surely the brightest idea in commercial aviation so far this year.
The strike was unfortunate but maintenance on 2 runways in one of the busiest weekends of the year is a request for chaos. Dont understand why that couldnt be done a week earlier.
Apr 24, 22, 4:44 am
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The Aalsmeerbaan (18L/36R) was closed on April 4th, and is not expected to open again before the middle of July!, and that's assuming everything goes according to plan. (Which other major hub closes runways for 3 months or longer?). As a consequence the Buitenveldertbaan (09/27) is closed for short periods when work is being done on the Aalsmeerbaan at the point where the two runways intersect. Choosing April 19-26 as one of those periods is nothing short of brilliant. What went on in the minds of the brightest Schiphol sparks is anybody's guess.
As a heads up, the Aalsmeerbaan work will also restrict use of the Kaagbaan (06/24) from May 16 until June 6. The top end of the latter meets the former just short of halfway, so when they are messing around with the Aalsmeerbaan the full length of the Kaagbaan will not be available.
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Apr 24, 22, 4:51 am
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Apr 24, 22, 5:58 am
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Crikey, does look like KLM is having a "BA style" weekend. Although I suppose the runway maintenance schedule is not a KL decision... I guess I should be happy that I made it home at all Friday night, even with another Swissport meltdown at BRS causing a two hour wait for luggage.
Tomorrow morning I'll be on LH. They notified me already that the flight is overbooked, I guess due to the morning KL flight having been already cancelled :-)
Hopefully the double runway downtime finishes today as projected.
Tomorrow morning I'll be on LH. They notified me already that the flight is overbooked, I guess due to the morning KL flight having been already cancelled :-)
Hopefully the double runway downtime finishes today as projected.
Apr 24, 22, 6:10 am
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Not as chaotic here as I expected, I arrived 40 min late and the departures board is less red than on Friday. No queue at lounge 25. The transfer desk queue however, stretches all the way back to C gates.
Apr 24, 22, 6:51 am
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Apr 24, 22, 12:46 pm
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T2 security this evening
I'll happily admit to the crime of double-posting, but I figure these pics are more appropriate here.
Time to get upstairs: over half an hour.
Time to get from there to the checkpoints: not yet known, I'll post when I find out. Update: 90 minutes, including clearing security itself.
Yet Schiphol is still cheerfully telling shorthaul pax to get to the airport 2 hours before departure. That's hardly enough time to just get through security. The folks running the Schiphol show are crazier than a Bessie Bug.
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Time to get upstairs: over half an hour.
Time to get from there to the checkpoints: not yet known, I'll post when I find out. Update: 90 minutes, including clearing security itself.
Yet Schiphol is still cheerfully telling shorthaul pax to get to the airport 2 hours before departure. That's hardly enough time to just get through security. The folks running the Schiphol show are crazier than a Bessie Bug.
Johan
Last edited by johan rebel; Apr 24, 22 at 1:40 pm
Apr 24, 22, 1:00 pm
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Yes, lots of people here. We arrived 6.30 pm took 35 minutes to reach the lounge. Thought the security process was reasonably efficient. Don't want to think about this many people at LHR security! But seems like you hit the jackpot just a bit later.
Apr 24, 22, 1:10 pm
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Fortunately, that wasn't me hitting the jackpot there, I just got sent the pictures.
Your flight is running only ten minutes late, by the way. Unless half the pax are still stuck in that queue, and they decide to wait for them.
Johan
Your flight is running only ten minutes late, by the way. Unless half the pax are still stuck in that queue, and they decide to wait for them.
Johan
Apr 25, 22, 3:35 am
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My parents were caught up in the mess at AMS on Saturday. KL1017 was Delayed by over 3 hours.
Not sure what the reason was for delay, but i'd like to help them get some compensation if they are entitled to it. I believe one of the reasons given was due to Ground Crew strike and i'm not sure if this is the case, whether any compensation would be issued.
Not sure what the reason was for delay, but i'd like to help them get some compensation if they are entitled to it. I believe one of the reasons given was due to Ground Crew strike and i'm not sure if this is the case, whether any compensation would be issued.
