Oct 4, 2022, 1:44 am
Last edit by: b12e
Status as of 23 APR 24:
B787-10 Aircraft confirmed having PE seats installed:
B787-9 aircraft confirmed having PE seats installed:
B777-300 aircraft confirmed having new business class and PE seats installed:
B777-200 aircraft confirmed having new business class and PE seats installed (out of 15 total):
B787-10 Aircraft confirmed having PE seats installed:
- All B78X should now have the new PE seats
- Completed: PH-BKA, PH-BKC, PH-BKD, PH-BKF, PH-BKG, PH-BKH, PH-BKI, PH-BKK, PH-BKL, PH-BLM
- Seat map for the 787-10 including the new PE cabin: https://www.aerolopa.com/kl-781-3cl
B787-9 aircraft confirmed having PE seats installed:
- All B789 should now have the new PE seats
- Completed: PH-BHA, PH-BHC, PH-BHD, PH-BHE, PH-BHF, PH-BHG, PH-BHH, PH-BHI, PH-BHL, PH-BHM, PH-BHN, PH-BHO, PH-BHP
- Seat map for the 787-9 including the new PE cabin: https://www.aerolopa.com/kl-789-3cl
B777-300 aircraft confirmed having new business class and PE seats installed:
- Converted: PH-BVA, PH-BVB, PH-BVC, PH-BVD, PH-BVF, PH-BVG, PH-BVI, PH-BVK, PH-BVN, PH-BVO, PH-BVP, PH-BVR, PH-BVS, PH-BVV, PH-BVW
- Seat map for the 777-300ER including the new WBC and PE cabins: https://www.aerolopa.com/kl-773-3cl
- PH-BVU
B777-200 aircraft confirmed having new business class and PE seats installed (out of 15 total):
- Converted: none yet
- Seat map for the retrofit B772 with 3 class configuration: https://www.aerolopa.com/kl-772-3cl
- PH-BQA
- PH-BQB
- PH-BQC
- PH-BQD
- PH-BQE
- PH-BQF
- PH-BQG
- PH-BQH - Currently under modification
- PH-BQI
- PH-BQK
- PH-BQL
- PH-BQM
- PH-BQN
- PH-BQO
- PH-BQP
KLM to introduce 'real' premium economy
Dec 25, 2020, 3:54 pm
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Nov 23, 2021, 1:59 pm
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Is there any update on this? In February 2020 the KLM CEO said it will be launched "within a year." Obviously that didn't occur. Any info on any aircraft mods occurring?
Feb 4, 2022, 1:50 am
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Finally some information has come out from KLM sources on the introduction of Premium Comfort;
1. First 787-10 will come with new seating in summer 2022
2. Its expected that by end 2023 all 777/787 fleet will have Premium Comfort and new WBC seating
3. WBC will have aisle acces and all seats will be similar to the b 787-10 C class seat
4. Premium will have 21-28 seats depending on aircraft
5.Separated area, , reclining seat( not specified) footrest
6. 2 Fllight attendants which will receive online training from march onwards
7 . Economy comfort zone will be available as well
Still bit vague but they are working and investing in their product.
Edit , 8. 2 pieces checked luggage and Sky Priority services will be part of the package to attract passengers
Aircraft will be refitted 1 by 1, however the 3 new b 787-10 currently still in the US will have already the new seating/cabin lay out
A330 fleet will NOT be reconfigured, asthese aircraft will leave fleet within next years
1. First 787-10 will come with new seating in summer 2022
2. Its expected that by end 2023 all 777/787 fleet will have Premium Comfort and new WBC seating
3. WBC will have aisle acces and all seats will be similar to the b 787-10 C class seat
4. Premium will have 21-28 seats depending on aircraft
5.Separated area, , reclining seat( not specified) footrest
6. 2 Fllight attendants which will receive online training from march onwards
7 . Economy comfort zone will be available as well
Still bit vague but they are working and investing in their product.
Edit , 8. 2 pieces checked luggage and Sky Priority services will be part of the package to attract passengers
Aircraft will be refitted 1 by 1, however the 3 new b 787-10 currently still in the US will have already the new seating/cabin lay out
A330 fleet will NOT be reconfigured, asthese aircraft will leave fleet within next years
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Feb 4, 2022, 2:55 pm
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Finally some information has come out from KLM sources on the introduction of Premium Comfort;
1. First 787-10 will come with new seating in summer 2022
2. Its expected that by end 2023 all 777/787 fleet will have Premium Comfort and new WBC seating
3. WBC will have aisle acces and will be done and all seats will be similar to the b 787-10 C class seat
4. Premium will have 21-28 seats depending on aircraft
5.Separated area, , reclining seat( not specified) footrest
6. 2 Fllight attendants which will receive online training from march onwards
7 . Economy comfort zone will be available as well
Still bit vague but they are working and investing in their product.
1. First 787-10 will come with new seating in summer 2022
2. Its expected that by end 2023 all 777/787 fleet will have Premium Comfort and new WBC seating
3. WBC will have aisle acces and will be done and all seats will be similar to the b 787-10 C class seat
4. Premium will have 21-28 seats depending on aircraft
5.Separated area, , reclining seat( not specified) footrest
6. 2 Fllight attendants which will receive online training from march onwards
7 . Economy comfort zone will be available as well
Still bit vague but they are working and investing in their product.
De Premium Comfort Class is een aparte reisklasse in een separate cabine met een ander soort stoel. Deze zijn breder en hebben meer recline. Er zal 7,5 cm meer beenruimte zijn dan in Economy Comfort, waar de passagier de beschikking heeft over 89 cm beenruimte.
Freely translated as the seat being different from economy, unspecified 'more' recline, 7.5cm more leg space compared to economy comfort.
Again no word about Airbuses .
And.. what I've noticed from earlier KL events and chats with staff, all employees seem to be pretty happy with the new class. As a passenger, given the experience at AF, I don't copy that (yet).
Feb 5, 2022, 8:45 am
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Apr 23, 2022, 11:53 am
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An update was published today on Luchtvaartnieuws (link below) about the new WBC:
- KLM passengers will soon be able to look forward to extra privacy in the completely renewed World Business Class in the Boeing 777.
- The 777 will have direct access to the aisle after the retrofit of the Business seats and will also be fitted with a sliding door, so that more privacy is created, the seats will also be slightly wider.
- KLM also announced earlier this summer that it would introduce a Premium Economy product under the name 'Premium Comfort'. It will come on board the 777 and 787 and will be unveiled at the end of May. Both planes will therefore soon have three travel classes: Economy (including the Economy Comfort product), Premium Comfort and World Business Class.
May 27, 2022, 2:25 am
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