Mess in AMS today - up to March 2022
Mar 11, 2019, 7:06 am
#361
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There are the perennial issues of all those misaligned and very distant runways as well as the noise abatement rules restricting their use, but the main culprit is the airport's decision a few years back to go all out to increase flight movements to the maximum permissible number of ½ a million.
AMS now just doesn't have the infrastructure and facilities to cope anymore.
One hiccup and everything goes haywire.
Johan
AMS now just doesn't have the infrastructure and facilities to cope anymore.
One hiccup and everything goes haywire.
Johan
Mar 11, 2019, 7:52 am
#362
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My flight today from LIN was cancelled last night. Since its a group booking that I'm not in charge of we were rebooked to tomorrow's flight (I would have moved to LH or LX, or at the very least tried the evening flights out of MXP). If the wind keeps up, I'm questioning whether we will get out tomorrow either.
Mar 13, 2019, 6:10 am
#363
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Another 85 or so KL flights canceled today.
Johan
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Mar 14, 2019, 2:59 am
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Was booked LIN-AMS-GLA today and got notification yesterday that LIN-AMS was cancelled. I presume it was WX related. A phone agent informed me that I was rebooked on LH flying LIN-FRA-GLA. While I was annoyed the itinerary had me departing LIN an hour earlier, I know it could’ve been a greater time change and I’m actually impressed that the re-booking went so smoothly. Even got a decent economy cabin-forward window seat.
Mar 14, 2019, 6:45 am
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KLM now says there will be disruption on Friday as well.
Considering changing my early morning flight to a later one, all flights to Munich are showing as operating now, but I worry if the later one is overbooked or cancelled I might have issues getting there. Would be nice if I could also change to a flight via CDG, but those are charging the fare difference, which for a next day flight is quite a lot.
Considering changing my early morning flight to a later one, all flights to Munich are showing as operating now, but I worry if the later one is overbooked or cancelled I might have issues getting there. Would be nice if I could also change to a flight via CDG, but those are charging the fare difference, which for a next day flight is quite a lot.
Mar 14, 2019, 8:13 am
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KLM now says there will be disruption on Friday as well.
Considering changing my early morning flight to a later one, all flights to Munich are showing as operating now, but I worry if the later one is overbooked or cancelled I might have issues getting there. Would be nice if I could also change to a flight via CDG, but those are charging the fare difference, which for a next day flight is quite a lot.
Considering changing my early morning flight to a later one, all flights to Munich are showing as operating now, but I worry if the later one is overbooked or cancelled I might have issues getting there. Would be nice if I could also change to a flight via CDG, but those are charging the fare difference, which for a next day flight is quite a lot.
Mar 14, 2019, 8:47 am
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Yep, saw the info about disruption but as I see no flights cancelled yet. I am ok on CDG-AMS-JFK and hope it sticks, DL or AF A380 in J does not sound appealing to me. Get to MUC on time, I will track your flight and if you dont depart I will send you PM to meet in lounge
edit: mid-morning flight is not available anymore, which I guess makes sense if some of the lunchtime pax are protected on it. There's also less seats available for selection on my flight, but that might be people checking in just as much as actual rebookings.
Maybe I'll ask if its over and offer to fly via CDG, for some extra XP
Mar 15, 2019, 2:02 pm
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Strikes by public transport organizations and security at AMS on Monday, March 18.
Was a bit bumpy flying in Thursday.
Mar 17, 2019, 6:10 pm
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Also striking is the security staff apparently, around lunchtime.
Add to that the fact that OK/QS are now 7 planes short due to Max situation, I've had myself changed to a later flight tomorrow.
Add to that the fact that OK/QS are now 7 planes short due to Max situation, I've had myself changed to a later flight tomorrow.
Mar 21, 2019, 11:58 pm
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Fog today so I am stuck in a plane hoping for the fog to clear. 2 to 3 hours said the captain. They made us board to be ready if it clears.
Mar 22, 2019, 1:39 am
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Visibility in AMS is currently all of 99 meters. To make matters worse, the whole country is under a dense blanket of fog, with the exception of the Waddeneilanden and the highest parts of Limburg. The forecast is for the fog to slowly clear from the southeast from late morning or early afternoon,. However, it may persist all day in western coastal areas, and is in any case predicted to return in the west and north during the evening and night.
Between 7 and 8 a.m., most incoming flights did land, but mostly late.
Only a handful of longhaul flights have managed to land since 8 a.m. All the shorthauls seem to be screwed.
Good luck!
Johan
Between 7 and 8 a.m., most incoming flights did land, but mostly late.
Only a handful of longhaul flights have managed to land since 8 a.m. All the shorthauls seem to be screwed.
Good luck!
Johan
Last edited by johan rebel; Mar 22, 2019 at 1:46 am Reason: forecast updated
Mar 22, 2019, 4:22 am
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Visibility in AMS is currently all of 99 meters. To make matters worse, the whole country is under a dense blanket of fog, with the exception of the Waddeneilanden and the highest parts of Limburg. The forecast is for the fog to slowly clear from the southeast from late morning or early afternoon,. However, it may persist all day in western coastal areas, and is in any case predicted to return in the west and north during the evening and night.
Between 7 and 8 a.m., most incoming flights did land, but mostly late.
Only a handful of longhaul flights have managed to land since 8 a.m. All the shorthauls seem to be screwed.
Good luck!
Johan
Between 7 and 8 a.m., most incoming flights did land, but mostly late.
Only a handful of longhaul flights have managed to land since 8 a.m. All the shorthauls seem to be screwed.
Good luck!
Johan
Even on the train back down south, it had to stop a few times - most probably related to the mist. Has only started to clear up about an hour ago as I type this.
Cheers!