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Wunk Jan 14, 2017 2:07 am

Looking for some clarification on upgrade codes KLM
 
I've been searching for a bit, but I can't find a clear answer to some of these codes referring to upgrades at AF/KLM

Business - Classic Award & Upgrade (O) - This one seems pretty clear to me. Seat available for upgrade with miles. (which I've never been able to get any availability of on any trans-continental flight over the past 12 months :confused: )

Business - Flex Award for Elites (C) - I have no idea what this is. I'm guessing that Plat members (I'm gold myself) can apply for this award? But is it an award ticket or a miles upgrade?

Business - Upgrade with DL SWU/Global Upgrades & Fare Class (Z) - This is the one where you can upgrade with vouchers from AF/KLM or their partners I think?

carnarvon Jan 14, 2017 2:34 am


Originally Posted by Wunk (Post 27758999)
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Business - Classic Award & Upgrade (O) - This one seems pretty clear to me. Seat available for upgrade with miles. (which I've never been able to get any availability of on any trans-continental flight over the past 12 months :confused: )

O is the fare bucket INTO which you will go if you either buy a classic business class ticket with miles or upgrade from Eco/premoium eco TO business class with miles.



Business - Flex Award for Elites (C) - I have no idea what this is. I'm guessing that Plat members (I'm gold myself) can apply for this award? But is it an award ticket or a miles upgrade?
C is a paid full flex business class fare; paid with either money of miles (I did not know C was for Flex Award, but if you say so, I assume it to be right)


Business - Upgrade with DL SWU/Global Upgrades & Fare Class (Z) - This is the one where you can upgrade with vouchers from AF/KLM or their partners I think?
AFAIK, there are no upgrade vouchers with AF/KLM.

Z is discounted business class fare (leasure). Never heard of this fare bucket applying to awards.

sinbac Jan 14, 2017 5:59 am


Originally Posted by carnarvon (Post 27759050)
O is the fare bucket INTO which you will go if you either buy a classic business class ticket with miles or upgrade from Eco/premoium eco TO business class with miles.




C is a paid full flex business class fare; paid with either money of miles (I did not know C was for Flex Award, but if you say so, I assume it to be right)



AFAIK, there are no upgrade vouchers with AF/KLM.

Z is discounted business class fare (leasure). Never heard of this fare bucket applying to awards.

Actually I met many Z class award ticket.(tips to check which class you are requesting from fb award ticket, just log in mobile airfrance website.)

Originally Z applies for paid ticket, but yes, FB rolls out many award ticket with paid ticket class for skyrocketing miles.

And I guess DL learns a lot from FB regarding it.

Ditto Jan 14, 2017 6:53 am


Originally Posted by sinbac (Post 27759558)
Originally Z applies for paid ticket, but yes, FB rolls out many award ticket with paid ticket class for skyrocketing miles.

That's better than not having any option to redeem miles ;)

sinbac Jan 14, 2017 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 27759684)
That's better than not having any option to redeem miles ;)

Yes, but it will add many complexity when you check "real" award ticket.

rfrn Jan 17, 2017 4:53 pm

elites can also upgrade into Z but only from Y. But seeing as I have never had a long-haul Y ticket (even after selecting full flexibility always end up B or M), I've never seen this in practice. But every time I call to upgrade, if O is unavailable I'm asked if I'd like to pay up to Y at which point I could use miles to book into Z. Never obliged. Would probably be cheaper to just pay up to Z.

irishguy28 Jan 18, 2017 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by Wunk (Post 27758999)
I've been searching for a bit, but I can't find a clear answer to some of these codes referring to upgrades at AF/KLM

It's not the "codes" that appears to be the problem. You appear to be totally unfamiliar with Flying Blue.

Perhaps you should start here:

https://www.flyingblue.com/award-tickets.html

Grouchy Jan 19, 2017 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by Wunk (Post 27758999)
Business - Upgrade with DL SWU/Global Upgrades & Fare Class (Z) - This is the one where you can upgrade with vouchers from AF/KLM or their partners I think?

You can use a (Delta) GUC (Global Upgrade Certificate) when there is Z inventory.


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