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vexorg Mar 14, 2015 1:46 pm

There was a mouse, where?.....
 
Not there on the stair, even in old amsterdam, in the crown lounge as I'm sitting opposite the food area. Two of them just ran past and went behind the brown seats.

Told the staff at the desk and they said they know, it's because of the building work outside that's forcing them into the crown lounge (???). I'll bet they are not even gold or platinum members!!

sbams Mar 14, 2015 5:39 pm

Have regularly seen mice at various outlets through the airport (AMS), even before the building work. They need to set more traps.

Xandrios Mar 15, 2015 6:37 am

This has been an issue for ages - I believe there are various mice-references throughout the various lounge threads.

AtlanticX Mar 15, 2015 3:36 pm

Anywhere there's food, there's gonna be mice. It says very little about hygienic standards. Especially if there's construction going on.

I like restaurants/movie theaters/bars that employ the simplest solution: a cat.

ulxima Mar 15, 2015 7:14 pm

Perhaps they saw the animated movie Ratatouille.
We might expect significant catering enhancements in the coming months...

Ulxima

Zembla Mar 17, 2015 4:56 am


Originally Posted by vexorg (Post 24507200)
Not there on the stair, even in old amsterdam, in the crown lounge as I'm sitting opposite the food area. Two of them just ran past and went behind the brown seats.

Hurray! They're back! Haven't seen any since the large refurbishment works of the lounges many years ago. :)

nicolas75 Mar 19, 2015 2:52 pm

Close to the mouse pad and PCs? :D:D

Alpha Golf Mar 20, 2015 8:56 am

I'm amazed any creature could get past the AMS dragons.

aufmatt Mar 21, 2015 7:12 am


Originally Posted by sbams (Post 24508114)
Have regularly seen mice at various outlets through the airport (AMS), even before the building work. They need to set more traps.

As AtlanticX says: introduce cats. I remember seeing cats at a Russian airport... And mice in the Crown lounge.

Ber2dca Mar 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Cleanliness could be a bit of an issue at Schiphol though, I remember not too long ago getting a bad case of "sticky shoes" after walking on some unidentifiable sticky mess covering the entire floor on one particular aisleway. I hoped it was spilled soft drinks given the proximity of a food outlet. I hoped.

Can't remember coming across that problem at another airport to be honest. Though I remember the water of a flooded restroom spilling onto the concourse at Memphis Airport numerous years ago.

SchmeckFlyer Mar 22, 2015 2:55 pm

Do these mice have platinum cards or are they flying business, or are they freeloading off the rest of us? KLM needs to do something about the riff raff.

Concerto Mar 22, 2015 5:26 pm

Like I said in the Crown Lounge catering thread, I won't touch the open food in the lounge. I find the AMS lounges really on the limit, hygiene wise, these days.

johan rebel Mar 23, 2015 6:27 am


Originally Posted by Xandrios (Post 24509838)
This has been an issue for ages - I believe there are various mice-references throughout the various lounge threads.

Indeed. They've always been there. I recall seeing them (or their ancestors, more likely) in the then RoyalWing lounge decades ago.

I've always been a big fan of these intrepid, crafty, enterprising and really cute little mice. In the lounge, that is. Any mouse who visits me at home can look forward to an early demise.

I had lunch on the terrace of the JNB Intercontinental a few weeks ago, where I was joined by a mouse that scurried around under the table looking for scraps. It obviously had its ambitious eyes on the far more delectable selection on the table itself, but had a hard time finding a discreet route up. After coming to the conclusion that my legs were not after all the best scaling ladders ever invented, it had to concede defeat.

TK's IST lounge, to which KL's offerings cannot hold a candle, may or may not harbor mice, but it certainly has its very own flock of house sparrows. Come daybreak they all start chirping and flying around amongst the numerous potted plants and trees. Hygienic their presence is not, but it does endow the lounge with a certain bucolic charm.

Johan

SchmeckFlyer Mar 25, 2015 5:31 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 24550987)
TK's IST lounge, to which KL's offerings cannot hold a candle, may or may not harbor mice, but it certainly has its very own flock of house sparrows. Come daybreak they all start chirping and flying around amongst the numerous potted plants and trees. Hygienic their presence is not, but it does endow the lounge with a certain bucolic charm.

The obsession with hygiene in the West often goes overboard. Many theories and some evidence also suggest that the cleanliness we 'enjoy' here in the West has lead to a greater amount of allergy, astma and diminished immune development/priming which has consequences later in life. Some might even argue that a few delightful birds flying around is good for the health in the long run.

Much of the obsession with hygiene, especially in bureaucratic countries such as the Netherlands, has as much to do with actual health as with bureaucrats who feel the need to enforce rules because that is, after all, the rule. Never mind that many rules don't often make much sense.

Just the same, I would argue a few mice running around Schiphol is hardly a cause for concern. As long as they don't end up in aircraft holds and keep out of the food, it's really much ado about nothing.

johan rebel Mar 25, 2015 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer (Post 24561868)
The obsession with hygiene in the West often goes overboard. Many theories and some evidence also suggest that the cleanliness we 'enjoy' here in the West has lead to a greater amount of allergy, astma and diminished immune development/priming which has consequences later in life. Some might even argue that a few delightful birds flying around is good for the health in the long run.

I could not agree more. Growing up on a farm is great for the immune system.

I'm an avid fan of lounge fauna, but the difference between mice and sparrows is that the former do not relieve themselves in flight. In the TK lounge they have erected netting over the second floor seating areas, one need only look up to see why.

Johan


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