KLM houses and security on connections
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True; however, in the English language, there is no real distinction, and "jenever" is just called (Dutch) "gin".
(Think of it as an analogue to the Dutch habit of using "Engeland" even where "Groot-Brittannië" or "Verenigd Koninkrijk" would be the most appropriate word)
(Think of it as an analogue to the Dutch habit of using "Engeland" even where "Groot-Brittannië" or "Verenigd Koninkrijk" would be the most appropriate word)
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The English copied genever, changed it, and made it into their gin; hence the fact that they are seen as being far more similar to each other on the other side of the channel than is the case over here.
From the OED:
From the OED:
Originally Posted by Oxford English Dictionary
Originally used to designate the spirit as manufactured in the Low Countries, with the shortened form gin (see gin n.3 1) used to distinguish a British imitation of this, usually flavoured with a variety of spices and aromatics in addition to or in place of juniper; the two words are, however, often used indiscriminately
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Ah, you would quote an ENGLISH dictionary in the matter. Dutch people would tell you gin is, in fact, a poor reproduction of jenever. Only one truly made it in the world, though...
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The Scots and Irish might say the same about each others' whiskey/whisky ^
(But you will notice that the OED says that gin is a "British imitation" of genever. I don't see this as any indication that gin is somehow superior...you surely don't think that "imitations" are better than the originals??)
(But you will notice that the OED says that gin is a "British imitation" of genever. I don't see this as any indication that gin is somehow superior...you surely don't think that "imitations" are better than the originals??)
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Just to follow up - I got 2 houses on the flight from ICN-AMS (great crew in J!), and got to MAD fine with it as a carry-on. But got sick along the way, so wasn't able to enjoy the liquid contents while in Madrid.
I was really nervous about it, but I wrapped both of them up carefully and put them in my checked bag and flew MAD-TXL-FRA on AB, but the good news is that they didn't break! Just one more flight to the US and I'll drink them and then carry the empty houses back to Japan.
A side note - the houses are a lot smaller in real life than I had expected from pictures and stuff online.
I was really nervous about it, but I wrapped both of them up carefully and put them in my checked bag and flew MAD-TXL-FRA on AB, but the good news is that they didn't break! Just one more flight to the US and I'll drink them and then carry the empty houses back to Japan.
A side note - the houses are a lot smaller in real life than I had expected from pictures and stuff online.
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Hoping to take KLM gin house on a connecting flight from an inbound Dubai flight.
Hi.
Can anyone tell me the best way to take the KLM "gin house" from a KLM flight that lands in Amsterdam from Dubai through security for an onward KLM flight to Scotland.
What is the latest information?
Will KLM staff onboard the longhaul flight ( business class) be able tp put it in an tamper proof bag to get it through security for my connecting flight to Scotland.
I have only a few hours between flights. I'm not leaving Amsterdam airport.
I had planned on buying dutyfree in Dubai but reading old posts I think I will not anymore.
Also is there another set of security at the gate for the Scottish flight, I did wonder about buying dutyfree prior to boarding business class for my Scottish flight.
Sorry for all the questions, I've not used Schiphol Airport before.
Thanks .
Can anyone tell me the best way to take the KLM "gin house" from a KLM flight that lands in Amsterdam from Dubai through security for an onward KLM flight to Scotland.
What is the latest information?
Will KLM staff onboard the longhaul flight ( business class) be able tp put it in an tamper proof bag to get it through security for my connecting flight to Scotland.
I have only a few hours between flights. I'm not leaving Amsterdam airport.
I had planned on buying dutyfree in Dubai but reading old posts I think I will not anymore.
Also is there another set of security at the gate for the Scottish flight, I did wonder about buying dutyfree prior to boarding business class for my Scottish flight.
Sorry for all the questions, I've not used Schiphol Airport before.
Thanks .
#28
There are no additional security after duty free, at least in Edinburgh... They'll usually put any liquids purchased in a departures duty free shop in a sealed bag so you can bring it past security (don't open it until your final destination). Selling liquids at departure duty free and having them confiscated at security goes against the whole logic of selling it in the first place.
Also, arrivals from Scotland are considered clean and no re-clearance of security is needed in AMS.
And as Mfkne says, they'll put it in a sealed bag (if they don't, then do request for one) And all of the houses (of varying size) I have collected recently don't seem to contain >35 ml of Jenever anyways (as stated on the bottom of the house) so shouldn't be a problem anyhow.
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Talking about the KLM houses... I'm a OW loyalist and sometimes will go out of my way to fly OW... but just thinking of the KL houses make me want to cheat on OW already
Also, arrivals from Scotland are considered clean and no re-clearance of security is needed in AMS.
And as Mfkne says, they'll put it in a sealed bag (if they don't, then do request for one) And all of the houses (of varying size) I have collected recently don't seem to contain >35 ml of Jenever anyways (as stated on the bottom of the house) so shouldn't be a problem anyhow.
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Talking about the KLM houses... I'm a OW loyalist and sometimes will go out of my way to fly OW... but just thinking of the KL houses make me want to cheat on OW already
Last edited by clubeurope; Jul 4, 2018 at 9:20 am
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I had it out in the open in my carryon (not in a secure KLM bag), and went through multiple other airports, no issues whatsoever.
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There are no additional security after duty free, at least in Edinburgh... They'll usually put any liquids purchased in a departures duty free shop in a sealed bag so you can bring it past security (don't open it until your final destination). Selling liquids at departure duty free and having them confiscated at security goes against the whole logic of selling it in the first place.
Also, arrivals from Scotland are considered clean and no re-clearance of security is needed in AMS.
Also, arrivals from Scotland are considered clean and no re-clearance of security is needed in AMS.