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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:

A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done

A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done


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Old Aug 10, 2018, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by goofygoofygooberyeah
Meanwhile both PH-AOA and PH-AOM are not. Wonder if they're indeed doing 2 planes at once or if one or both are grounded for some other reason.
PH-AOA has been on the ground since 6 August, while PH-AOM is flying normally.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Meneer Guggenheimer
but the angle of the plane during cruise is supposed to compensate the slope... I was once told by a steward...
Also known as 'creatively selling a product's shortcomings'
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Old Aug 23, 2018, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ThePlaneThePlane
PH-AKE is back in the air today. It’s been a month and a half since it last flew.
PH-AKF has been on the ground since 12 July. My conclusion of the current status:

PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF in progress
PH-AOA
PH-AOB
PH-AOC
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM
PH-AON done
Mind if it put this in the wiki?
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Old Aug 23, 2018, 11:40 pm
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By all means.
PH-AKF is done and PH-AOA is now in progress it seems.
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Old Aug 24, 2018, 5:56 am
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I have a flight in a couple days on an A333 AMS-DMM, and it now shows when I click on the plane details in the app that it will be a full-flat seat. For the return flight a week later it still states angle flat. So looks like at least for the A333 where there's only 1 old cabin left that KLM will now tell you a couple days in advance what cabin you have. On the website it still only shows the generic info about the planes all being updated by November.
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:26 am
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Was looking at a flight in January AMS-IAD that still showed Angle Flat on 333
Could this be that they have not updated the webiste...or are they that far behind on the initial June 2018 target?
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Keith2004
Was looking at a flight in January AMS-IAD that still showed Angle Flat on 333
Could this be that they have not updated the webiste...or are they that far behind on the initial June 2018 target?
June/July was deadline for the A330-300s where the 200s would be refitted by November. If they are behind...no clue. But note the slide between 'A330-200 to be refitted end October' and 'End of year' in these two different web pages. I'd say if you have an 300 it is not having updated the seat map yet, if it is a 200 it could be delays.
https://news.klm.com/klm-launches-ne...irbus-330-300/
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pre...ness_class.htm
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by atflyer
June/July was deadline for the A330-300s where the 200s would be refitted by November. If they are behind...no clue. But note the slide between 'A330-200 to be refitted end October' and 'End of year' in these two different web pages. I'd say if you have an 300 it is not having updated the seat map yet, if it is a 200 it could be delays.
https://news.klm.com/klm-launches-ne...irbus-330-300/
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pre...ness_class.htm
Thanks for info/links
It is definitely the 330-300 listed so maybe they just need to update the seating map,
I don't think I have seen the 330-200 on the AMS-IAD route, but I could stand corrected
Also a chance of a 777 or 787 sub I suppose, which happens a lot on this route.
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Wunk
KLM lists the A330-200's being done per November 2018, see text below seat selection:



WBC A330-200
For what it's worth, I'm on a A333 in late Nov. AMS-MIA, and my flight's seat map displays the same message.
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 10:53 pm
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PH-AOM’s been on the ground since 25 August. Looks like it’s being refitted in parallel with PH-AOA.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thread specifically even though it may be common to the seat type is that the row 1 seats have much more foot space than the other business class seats. More than twice as much if you're someone >185cm. For the other seats you're really in a coffin, so definitely would sit in row 1 myself in the future.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by goofygoofygooberyeah
Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thread specifically even though it may be common to the seat type is that the row 1 seats have much more foot space than the other business class seats. More than twice as much if you're someone >185cm. For the other seats you're really in a coffin, so definitely would sit in row 1 myself in the future.
Thanks for the tip! I might try to get 1D or 1G then for my AMS-MIA in November. It's a little bit of a gamble though because if I end up with an old configuration, I'll be miserable. I've had the first row center section a couple of times and people constantly used my footspace as a cut-through to the other side, even though there's a clear path in the corridor just on the other side of the partition. I even had people try to climb over my legs when my seat was reclined and footrest was up. Madness!
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by goofygoofygooberyeah
Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thread specifically even though it may be common to the seat type is that the row 1 seats have much more foot space than the other business class seats. More than twice as much if you're someone >185cm. For the other seats you're really in a coffin, so definitely would sit in row 1 myself in the future.
Generally goes for any Diamond seat that doesn't have another seat in front of it.
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Old Sep 7, 2018, 2:23 pm
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PH-AOA came back in business yesterday. With PH-AOM still in progress there now seems to be a 4/7 chance to score the new seat on the A332 and a 4/5 chance on the A333
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 9:48 am
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Thanks. Great thread.
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