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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:

A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done

A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done


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Old Aug 2, 2018, 5:18 am
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I am scheduled on A332 PH-AOB from Ams to Auh tomorrow. The klm website says it has sleeper seats, I am confused as which seats are those?
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 5:54 am
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Sleeper seats are the slippery slope model. Not a flat bed.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by YYCCL3
Sleeper seats are the slippery slope model. Not a flat bed.
Are these the ones with the hard back shell?
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by ams_flyer
I am scheduled on A332 PH-AOB from Ams to Auh tomorrow. The klm website says it has sleeper seats, I am confused as which seats are those?
The PH-AOB is scheduled for KL451 tomorrow, doesnt seem like it's retrofitted yet.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by Xizm
The PH-AOB is scheduled for KL451 tomorrow, doesnt seem like it's retrofitted yet.

Yeah thats correct. I just wanted to know if the seats are the ones with fixed hard shell or the old recliner ones?
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 8:34 am
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IIRC the fixed hard shell ones were installed on all A330-300's, and on two A330-200's: PH-AOM, PH-AON.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by ThePlaneThePlane
IIRC the fixed hard shell ones were installed on all A330-300's, and on two A330-200's: PH-AOM, PH-AON.
That's correct. The hard shell ones are not slippery at all.. they are reasonably close to flat.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 4:48 pm
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Afaik they are flat, just not level with the floor.
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Old Aug 4, 2018, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by CyBeR
Afaik they are flat, just not level with the floor.
This matches the description of an angled flat seat.

Flat but not horizontal, i.e. angled flat.

Slippery.

Boxer shorts sliding up till under the armits.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by carnarvon

Boxer shorts sliding up till under the armits.
Time to buy tighter boxer shorts ;-)
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Old Aug 6, 2018, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by Gajan
Time to buy tighter boxer shorts
Or to put on sufficient weight to achieve the desired tightness.

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Old Aug 7, 2018, 2:17 am
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PH-AKF is flying again.
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph
PH-AKF is flying again.
Meanwhile both PH-AOA and PH-AOM are not. Wonder if they're indeed doing 2 planes at once or if one or both are grounded for some other reason.
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 5:23 am
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Originally Posted by CyBeR
Afaik they are flat, just not level with the floor.
but the angle of the plane during cruise is supposed to compensate the slope... I was once told by a steward...
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by Meneer Guggenheimer
but the angle of the plane during cruise is supposed to compensate the slope... I was once told by a steward...
You should have asked him if that means that every single actual 180 degree lay-flat seat that is designed to be parallel to the floor are actually the ones that end up being sloped during flight, and why all these airlines are then retrofitting their planes with these 'bad' seats!
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