The ultimate thread on buy-ups at OLCI
May 23, 2018, 6:30 am
#2102
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 47
May 23, 2018, 8:46 am
#2103
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,013
EDI-AMS, KLC flight offered at 69 EUR. Last I looked, no takers.
EDI-AMS, Carpatair op flight day later, no offer. Flight has 5 Y seats free at T-24 on the seatmap, can't see J except that there's two rows of it apparently (vs. 1 row on E-Jet)
EDI-AMS, Carpatair op flight day later, no offer. Flight has 5 Y seats free at T-24 on the seatmap, can't see J except that there's two rows of it apparently (vs. 1 row on E-Jet)
May 24, 2018, 3:34 am
#2105
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zanzibar
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 1,319
I got 4232 Miles for it to as Upgrade Economy to Business. The original ticket was a "werelddeal week" discounted ticket.
It was €529 and not €525
And I got the newer Business class product on 773er
(I was already upgraded for free to AF premium economy when I checked in in Amsterdam)
May 24, 2018, 2:12 pm
#2106
Join Date: Jul 2010
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, BAEC Silver, Hilton Honors Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Tit, Accor Plat
Posts: 246
May 25, 2018, 6:04 am
#2107
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,013
Flight went out full in Y with about 3-4 free seats in J.
May 25, 2018, 2:41 pm
#2108
Join Date: May 2010
Location: BRE
Programs: Flying Blue Gold
Posts: 20
@ #2094 + #2097 :
I have to admit that I was not aware that the OLCI upgrade does not mean a change to the contract of carriage.
However, the issue has been settled. I got a call from KLM a few days ago. In addition to the refund of the OLCI upgrade fare, a certain amount of miles was added to my FlyingBlue Account, as KLM agreed it was not acceptable that I was left without answer for several hours after my request for rebooking from TK on 30/04 to KLM on 29/04.
I have to admit that I was not aware that the OLCI upgrade does not mean a change to the contract of carriage.
However, the issue has been settled. I got a call from KLM a few days ago. In addition to the refund of the OLCI upgrade fare, a certain amount of miles was added to my FlyingBlue Account, as KLM agreed it was not acceptable that I was left without answer for several hours after my request for rebooking from TK on 30/04 to KLM on 29/04.
May 31, 2018, 12:18 am
#2109
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: FlyingBlue Plat
Posts: 499
AMS-VIE (KL1839): 79 Euro. Strangely, after take-off, one platinum passenger* moved from the aisle seat in row 4 to an aisle seat in row 3, after paying 79 Euro by credit card. I hope the yoghurt and cold cuts were worth it!
* he asked the purser for a discount on the upgrade fare, and flashed his new platinum card. the purser didn't budge, so the guy took out his AmEx...
* he asked the purser for a discount on the upgrade fare, and flashed his new platinum card. the purser didn't budge, so the guy took out his AmEx...
Jun 1, 2018, 12:21 am
#2110
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zanzibar
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 1,319
Ams Nwi 30/5 €49
Nwi Ams 1/6 €49
one the 30/5 I was moved back from 3a as they required more seats as an earlier flight was cancelled or something else. There was a pretty drunken English Rockband in front who started singing ‘bar/drink’ songs when they could not get any alcoholics. But they where funny and polite and added some in flight entertainment for the rest of the flight.
interesting I have travelled to NWI for 20 years and this was the first time I actually saw customs and they checked everything especially looking for siggarettes and alcohol.
Nwi Ams 1/6 €49
one the 30/5 I was moved back from 3a as they required more seats as an earlier flight was cancelled or something else. There was a pretty drunken English Rockband in front who started singing ‘bar/drink’ songs when they could not get any alcoholics. But they where funny and polite and added some in flight entertainment for the rest of the flight.
interesting I have travelled to NWI for 20 years and this was the first time I actually saw customs and they checked everything especially looking for siggarettes and alcohol.
Jun 1, 2018, 3:23 pm
#2111
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Until KLC dropped the route, I used to commute to AMS from MMX. Very occasionaly there would be a passport check at the gate upon arrival at MMX. It took a long time for the coin to drop, but I finally worked out that I could predict these rare gate checks with almost 100% accuracy simply by looking around the cabin. A single non-Caucasian was all it took.
Johan
Jun 5, 2018, 12:12 pm
#2113
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
CPH-AMS not offered, for the first time in ages. 0/8 available. Flight nevertheless went out with two empty seats. I got an onboard upgrade (plus a 1˝ hour delay because they screwed up when loading the hold luggage).
Johan
Johan
Jun 5, 2018, 1:26 pm
#2114
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,697
The "offer" excludes extra baggage allowance and extra XPs - if you want these, you can upgrade your ticket using the "normal" means.
Jun 5, 2018, 1:54 pm
#2115
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In between PTY, MEX and CPH
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, SAS Eurobonus Silver, Connect Miles Gold, Marriott Lifetime Plat, Hyatt Disc.
Posts: 585
Meneer Guggenheimer's experience actually doesn't confirm your doubt. He/she was upgraded, but noted a DL Gold was upgraded too. DL Gold is technically below KL/AF/DL Platinum.
Say what you want, but sometimes a random flight that's empty in terms of elite Medallions in the back (maybe most are already sitting up front for whatever reason) goes out AMS-SEA, and then you have another DL domestic hub-to-hub flight (e.g. LAX to ATL) where more than half the plane is Diamonds at certain time.
Point is, if you don't know who was Medallion, you can't say that DL picks KL elites prior to their own for op ups. It just simply isn't true. The system prioritizes DL elites, but at the end of the day the GA can do what they want. If a flight is Medallion lite, people get lucky...I flew CDG-NRT on AirFrance and was upgraded back when I was a DL silver. Lucky.
Say what you want, but sometimes a random flight that's empty in terms of elite Medallions in the back (maybe most are already sitting up front for whatever reason) goes out AMS-SEA, and then you have another DL domestic hub-to-hub flight (e.g. LAX to ATL) where more than half the plane is Diamonds at certain time.
Point is, if you don't know who was Medallion, you can't say that DL picks KL elites prior to their own for op ups. It just simply isn't true. The system prioritizes DL elites, but at the end of the day the GA can do what they want. If a flight is Medallion lite, people get lucky...I flew CDG-NRT on AirFrance and was upgraded back when I was a DL silver. Lucky.