Nonstop routes discontinued? (BOS-PHX)
#1
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Nonstop routes discontinued? (BOS-PHX)
I took a flight a week ago, non-stop Boston to Phoenix and back, went to book the same route today for later this month and poof! the nonstops are no longer available?
What happened? All the sales rep said when I called to question was they have been discontinued. Huh? My flight back was absolutely PACKED, so I can't imagine the route wasn't selling well. Was loving that JetBlue offered the non-stop, so looks like now I'll be back to Southwest or AWA when I have to travel to the desert. Taking a layover through JFK out of BOS really is a major letdown.
All I can think is it must be fallout from bad publicity back in February.
What a shame because I actually liked flying this airline...for as long as it lasted, that is. Wonder what else they'll be cutting back on.
What happened? All the sales rep said when I called to question was they have been discontinued. Huh? My flight back was absolutely PACKED, so I can't imagine the route wasn't selling well. Was loving that JetBlue offered the non-stop, so looks like now I'll be back to Southwest or AWA when I have to travel to the desert. Taking a layover through JFK out of BOS really is a major letdown.
All I can think is it must be fallout from bad publicity back in February.
What a shame because I actually liked flying this airline...for as long as it lasted, that is. Wonder what else they'll be cutting back on.
#2
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Loads
PHX loads in summer have been disappointing. There is talk of returning the flight in the fall. Additionally, we simply do not have enough aircraft online to support a disappointing route. We are essentially using PHX's a/c for our new SAN nonstop starting later this month.
Please be advised I am posting this on my personal behalf, it is not an official posting from JetBlue.
Please be advised I am posting this on my personal behalf, it is not an official posting from JetBlue.
Last edited by JAX2BOS; Jun 6, 2007 at 3:08 pm Reason: Disclaimer added
#3
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As JAX2BOS stated the BOS-PHX loads are very disappointing in the summer months as most travelers in the norteast head to Florida and the western coast. We where constantly seeing horrible low loads on the PHX flight hence the cancellation of the route. I suspect the route will be back in the fall when the loads pick back up. Even USAirways is having a horrible time finding customers to fill the BOS-PHX route so it's not just us. The only reason you won't see USAirways cancel the route is because PHX is a hub and offers connections.
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Does anyone have any insight into how full (or not) the JFK-PHX flights are in August?
I booked 6 months ago for $149 (a bargain at only GBP 75 !) but I see the same (Friday) flight is still selling for just $189. The seat map shows the plane about half full.
Is there any risk of the 2 flights that day being merged into one?
I booked 6 months ago for $149 (a bargain at only GBP 75 !) but I see the same (Friday) flight is still selling for just $189. The seat map shows the plane about half full.
Is there any risk of the 2 flights that day being merged into one?
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Does anyone have any insight into how full (or not) the JFK-PHX flights are in August?
I booked 6 months ago for $149 (a bargain at only GBP 75 !) but I see the same (Friday) flight is still selling for just $189. The seat map shows the plane about half full.
Is there any risk of the 2 flights that day being merged into one?
I booked 6 months ago for $149 (a bargain at only GBP 75 !) but I see the same (Friday) flight is still selling for just $189. The seat map shows the plane about half full.
Is there any risk of the 2 flights that day being merged into one?
#8
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Because B6 hasn't enough leak the A320 aircraft. That's why B6 has been discontinuation in 2007. It doesn't come back nonstop from BOS-PHX. I knew the loads has been done extremely very well. If B6 could be reinstatement from BOS-PHX in mid-2008. It will be free up some A320 for others more specific routes. Maybe if E90 could be enough reachable in PHX will have limited weight restrictions.
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Several months ago Southwest Airlines dropped several transcon nonstops, including some of my favorites. I'm pretty sure their reason was low profitability, not low load factors. Those flights were pretty full, but a flight full of people who paid $99 each to fly across the country isn't going to make money. That airplane can fly two profitable short-haul flights in the same time. At least that's my guess.
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Several months ago Southwest Airlines dropped several transcon nonstops, including some of my favorites. I'm pretty sure their reason was low profitability, not low load factors. Those flights were pretty full, but a flight full of people who paid $99 each to fly across the country isn't going to make money. That airplane can fly two profitable short-haul flights in the same time. At least that's my guess.
#11
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I flew PHX-BOS-PHX around 5 times and at least 4 of the flights I had the whole row to myself. The loads overall weren't terrible, I just lucked out it seemed. On one flight I do remember maybe only 60-70 passengers total. Everyone seemed to have a window or aisle seat.
I wish they would add it back, but I also want jetBlue to be healthy and not fly routes that will hurt their bottom line. My dream is they add Phoenix as a focus city but that is very very wishful thinking!
I wish they would add it back, but I also want jetBlue to be healthy and not fly routes that will hurt their bottom line. My dream is they add Phoenix as a focus city but that is very very wishful thinking!
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B6 has adds nonstop from BOS-PHX-JFK only for Super Bowl weekend
Hi all,
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
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Hi all,
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
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Hi all,
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
I have heard B6 has been adds more flight only for Super Bowl weekend from BOS-PHX-JFK. Here the news releasable from B6:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080123/134893.html
Thanks all!
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We are running a Super Bowl flight BOS-PHX on the first. I've been rescheduled to work the BOS-PHX flight on 02/01. We where suppose to work BOS-OAK but that flight was cancelled and rerouted BOS-PHX with us ferrying the aircraft to OAK after we drop off a plane load of excited Patriot fans! So if your heading to the Super Bowl via BOS-PHX on 02/01, I'll be working the aft of the cabin!