BUR-JFK, Short Runways = Passenger Cap
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BUR-JFK, Short Runways = Passenger Cap
I chatted with a JetBlue FA on a flight the other day and she mentioned that the new Burbank - JFK flights would have middle seats in rows 4-10 blocked, most likely as a move to woo the clientele usually flying F and to cope with the short runways @ BUR.
It is probably important to note that while these seats are blocked, it's not a guarantee that they will be open.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF (exit row) and 26DEF (onboard wheelchair stowage) usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
Remember, rows 1-10 have 32 inches of pitch, 11-12 are exit rows, and 13-26 have 34 inches of pitch.
Might be helpful to know when booking those flights!.
It is probably important to note that while these seats are blocked, it's not a guarantee that they will be open.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF (exit row) and 26DEF (onboard wheelchair stowage) usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
Remember, rows 1-10 have 32 inches of pitch, 11-12 are exit rows, and 13-26 have 34 inches of pitch.
Might be helpful to know when booking those flights!.
Last edited by a330300; Apr 28, 2005 at 12:21 pm
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Wow -- they have to waste 14 seats?! That's good info. to know if turns out to be correct.
This should be easy to check. If any FTer is booking a flight to/from BUR, please check the seat map to see if all middle seats in these rows are blocked.
This should be easy to check. If any FTer is booking a flight to/from BUR, please check the seat map to see if all middle seats in these rows are blocked.
Last edited by dhuey; Apr 26, 2005 at 7:15 pm
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My wonderful sister is a FA with JetBlue and she informed me from her cell phone in the cockpit with the pilot (during a brief OAK layover, btw, NOT in flight!) that this is indeed true. They must cap at 130 passengers.
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Now that's big news. Is there a moderator for this forum? I suggest that this is worthy of a sticky topic (e.g., "FYI re BUR-JFK Flights"). Having a middle seat blocked next to you is one of the benefits of elite status on the legacy carriers. Thanks to you two, it's there for the asking for all FTers. Thanks!
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I'd take the empty middle seat and give up the 2" of leg room (I'm 5'10"). You and the other person in your row would have the extra storage space, tray table, seat and arm rests. You could even angle your legs toward the middle if you like.
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It is probably important to note that while these seats are blocked, it's not a guarantee that they will be open.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF and 26DEF usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF and 26DEF usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
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Originally Posted by a330300
It is probably important to note that while these seats are blocked, it's not a guarantee that they will be open.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF and 26DEF usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
JetBlue blocks rows 1-3, 12DEF and 26DEF usually reserved for airport assignment and working around families and groups, single travelers without a seat assignment might end up in one of the blocked middle seats.
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Originally Posted by BobbyL262
tdb, thats not true. Those rows reguarlly have pax in them, as I usually sit in 1F everytime I fly B6. This is good information to have about the 4-10 middle seats, on a transcon, not having someone next to you, awesome!
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I'd personally value the blocked middle seat as 50% of a legacy carrier upgrade -- especially considering the decline in most transcon F food service.
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Originally Posted by dream7
I am confused here. I thought the fuel stop/weight restriction problems were on the westbound flights (JFK to BUR), where you are flying into headwinds. Is this correct?
Westbound flights have the benefit of JFK's much longer runways, which allow for flights at MTOW. Headwinds might mean a fuel stop, just like other westbound B6 transcons, but at least B6 can topoff the tanks at JFK. At BUR, the A320 can't be as heavy as it can be at JFK. Less weight = fewer passengers, fewer bags, less fuel (and/or some combination of all three).
Last year, LGB-JFK flights had to stop for fuel for a short while due to runway construction that effectively reduced the amount of fuel the eastbound flights could carry.