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Top off Mosaic buying points [2018 year end]

Old Dec 3, 18, 3:43 pm
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Top off Mosaic buying points [2018 year end]

This morning JetBlue sent out a weekly sale email reminding me that I've not yet qualified for Mosiac.

This afternoon the company sent out an email telling me how many points I need and that I could buy them.

The rates are not particularly compelling to me, but I'm sure some folks will bite at some levels.
250 points: $45.00 (18cpp)
500 points: $110.00 (22cpp)
1,000 points: $250.00 (25cpp)
1,500 points: $375.00 (25cpp)
2,000 points: $500.00 (25cpp)
2,500 points: $625.00 (25cpp)
3,000 points: $750.00 (25cpp)
3,500 points: $875.00 (25cpp)
4,000 points: $1,000.00 (25cpp)
4,500 points: $1,125.00 (25cpp)
5,000 points: $1,250.00 (25cpp)
5,500 points: $1,485.00 (27cpp)
6,000 points: $1,620.00 (27cpp)
6,500 points: $1,755.00 (27cpp)
7,000 points: $1,890.00 (27cpp)
7,500 points: $2,025.00 (27cpp)
8,000 points: $2,160.00 (27cpp)
8,500 points: $2,295.00 (27cpp)
9,000 points: $2,430.00 (27cpp)
9,500 points: $2,565.00 (27cpp)
10,000 points: $2,700.00 (27cpp)
10,500 points: $2,835.00 (27cpp)
11,000 points: $4,070.00 (37cpp)
12,000 points: $4,440.00 (37cpp)
13,000 points: $4,810.00 (37cpp)
14,000 points: $5,180.00 (37cpp)
15,000 points: $5,550.00 (37cpp)


Particularly interesting to me is that buying the 15,000 points costs more than you'd spend flying to earn them in a normal earn cycle.
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Old Dec 4, 18, 9:28 am
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Now we know why they didn't offer any challenges this year. They are learning from the Legacy carriers how to make more $$$.
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Old Dec 4, 18, 1:07 pm
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Except that the legacy carriers also offer challenges from time to time.

I think the lack of challenges this year was tied to other things in the background, including trying to control the costs of the program and that CC-based earning of Mosaic is now available and far more valuable to the company.
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Old Dec 4, 18, 1:41 pm
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Interesting JetBlue is making Mosaic so exclusive, considering the hard costs of it are pretty low- they aren't trying to cram upgrades on a limited inventory and most of the benefits cost them very little. Yet the benefits to the consumer would theoretically be enough to weigh them in high consideration. (I'm UA Silver but unless there's a ~$60+ difference I'd fly B6 every time.)
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Old Dec 4, 18, 2:53 pm
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The cost of the upgrades for DL/UA/AA is relatively low; more an opportunity cost for those pax not buying F than a real cost to deliver. And at this point those carriers as so far down that path it would be hard to back away from it short of reducing the number of seats by selling them cheaper, just like they're doing. And B6 does offer a similar upgrade scheme, though just to EMS at the airport on a space-available basis rather than to F. Mostly because there is no F. But the same opportunity cost issues exist w/r/t whether the carrier can get Mosaics to pay up for EMS rather than snagging it for free at the airport.

The baggage and change fee waivers can add up pretty quickly, depending on passenger travel patterns. I know I use the change fee part very often. And this year I used the bag fee a few times as we moved. Easily saved $400+ on bag fees that way. Of course, I'd have come up with a different plan if the fees were not waived, but the benefits do have a cost to the carrier.
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Old Dec 4, 18, 8:25 pm
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considering the lack of badges ive moved several flights away from jetblue in the past few months.

i had planned on a few filghts to keep up the mosaic but right now im about 2,050 points short and with my planned flying ill get about halfway there. seems cheaper to buy the last 1,000 points than to fly it?
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Old Dec 5, 18, 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by ethang801 View Post
considering the lack of badges ive moved several flights away from jetblue in the past few months.
Really? I figured it was a fun little game on the side but cannot imagine changing booking patterns as a result of the program.

Originally Posted by ethang801 View Post
i had planned on a few filghts to keep up the mosaic but right now im about 2,050 points short and with my planned flying ill get about halfway there. seems cheaper to buy the last 1,000 points than to fly it?
Assuming you're planning to fly JetBlue next year I would pay $250 out of pocket to top off my account and have the status. But I also use the benefits it offers. If you're not going to use those benefits then don't bother.
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Old Dec 5, 18, 10:33 am
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I thought we had seen somewhere that they had promised to make the badge activity retroactive when they returned?
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Old Dec 5, 18, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by FLLUAFlyer View Post
Now we know why they didn't offer any challenges this year. They are learning from the Legacy carriers how to make more $$$.
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Except that the legacy carriers also offer challenges from time to time.
And this is the third year they've offered it:

https://thepointsguy.com/2016/12/buy...atus-for-2017/
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/12/jet...saic-for-2018/

It's nice that you get redeemable points as well -- the legacy buy-up offers don't IME get you the miles.

The one silly part is the 12/31 deadline -- given that JetBlue flights often take 2 weeks to credit, you couldn't use this to make up an unexpected shortfall after holiday travel. They're walking away from some cash, there.
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Old Dec 5, 18, 6:29 pm
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I had just gotten an email about a WN challenge they were offering to other elites. Fly 6 times within 3 months and they would give you a-list status for 2019. I would do it if I was going to be flying WN more than once or twice next year. The major benefit for me is the free flight changes (I get the luggage via the credit card anyway) . Its not worth it for me to pay 4000$ to buy up to mosaic next year. What I will miss however is the fun of the challenge (an excuse to fly mint) . I will just need to adjust my booking of tickets next year until I am more certain of where I am going. BTW now that WN is flying from the new concourse at LGA I may take advantage of their no change feeds.
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Old Dec 9, 18, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12 View Post
Really? I figured it was a fun little game on the side but cannot imagine changing booking patterns as a result of the program.

Assuming you're planning to fly JetBlue next year I would pay $250 out of pocket to top off my account and have the status. But I also use the benefits it offers. If you're not going to use those benefits then don't bother.
it definitely changes my booking patterns when im looking at qualifying for two different programs. on each flight i need to choose which airline to use and the badges or at the very least the map motivated me to try to use jetblue to new destinations, now that activity has been going elsewhere.

i will definitely use the mosaic status next year but buying the final points seems cheaper than flying them, correct?
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Old Dec 9, 18, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ethang801 View Post

i will definitely use the mosaic status next year but buying the final points seems cheaper than flying them, correct?
I'm 1000 base points short, and my math says: I send B6 $250, and they send me 1000 base points, or I buy a $333.34 ticket and get my 1000 base points, plus 2000 incentive other points for at least 3,000 points. Guess it depends if I want to go somewhere....

Better said, at least I think I'm 1000 points short, the darn IT system still hasn't updated my flight point count since late November. I wish B6 would cycle the flight tracker/activity more often than sending out "have you made mosaic for 2019" emails.

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Old Dec 10, 18, 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by ethang801 View Post
it definitely changes my booking patterns when im looking at qualifying for two different programs. on each flight i need to choose which airline to use and the badges or at the very least the map motivated me to try to use jetblue to new destinations, now that activity has been going elsewhere.

i will definitely use the mosaic status next year but buying the final points seems cheaper than flying them, correct?
I used to book interesting routings for the purpose of earning badges too. If it costs the same to connect in an odd place, and I have the time to spare, then why not?
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Old Dec 12, 18, 9:32 am
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I also got the first email but I didn't get the second one about the costs. I also was only a couple hundred points away so I managed to book a quick overnight business trip this week which should cover it. Apparently I've booked a lot of super cheap flights this year hence why it's taken me so long to re-qualify for 2019. I've flown way more than 30 times. So keep that in mind if you're planning to qualify next year. A Mint flight or two may not be a bad idea.

Re WN: I also did the Challenge when they ran it over the Summer so I'm now A-List through Summer 2019. I like it because I fly a lot of 6am flights out of LGA so I don't need to worry about boarding position now and so far the A-List seems to be prioritized over EarlyBirds.
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Old Dec 13, 18, 10:27 am
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and yet i cant figure out how many points i actually have and will need because it takes forever and a day to get my flights to post. i have a flight on 12/20 i literally have no idea if those points will hit my account by 12/31. how does it take them so long? i just cannot fathom
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