JetBlue Pilots Vote in Favor of Unionization
Apr 22, 2014, 1:34 pm
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JetBlue Pilots Vote in Favor of Unionization
After two failed unionization attempts (one in 2009 and one in 2011), the biggest US carrier without a union now has one. More than 71% of JetBlue's 2,600 pilots voted to unionize. They will be represented by Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA).
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ation/8014919/
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000269441
https://twitter.com/WeAreALPA/status/458670834966474752
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ation/8014919/
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000269441
https://twitter.com/WeAreALPA/status/458670834966474752
Apr 22, 2014, 3:39 pm
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Increased costs are made up by increasing revenue. Of the 4 companies I worked for that unionized during my time there 3 of them had increased costs of employment (and not all of that went into the employees pockets as Unions cost themselves).
Apr 22, 2014, 4:39 pm
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JetBlue will be on par with Delta after this unionization move as it is also represented by ALPA.
http://nwlaborpress.org/wp-content/u...0/FlyUnion.pdf
I personally believe in right to work and don't believe in forced union dues. NY needs to have this policy of forced union dues repealed. It is horrible.
http://nwlaborpress.org/wp-content/u...0/FlyUnion.pdf
I personally believe in right to work and don't believe in forced union dues. NY needs to have this policy of forced union dues repealed. It is horrible.
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Apr 22, 2014, 5:08 pm
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Increased costs. This is how the unions drove Detroit to bankruptcy.
Unions are also part of the reason why all U.S. based airlines have bad customer services. You can't easily fire bad apples. Unions were created back to protect workers, but now they are political machines.
Unions are also part of the reason why all U.S. based airlines have bad customer services. You can't easily fire bad apples. Unions were created back to protect workers, but now they are political machines.
Apr 22, 2014, 5:20 pm
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They also only act in the best interest of the Union, which is the preservation of said Union, and not necessarily the membership which leads to conflicts within which means further discontent by the membership.
And before someone calls me an unknowing Union Basher I am the son of two Union members (Teacher & Contractors) and myself was in a Union (by force) and have seen what Unions can/will do.
And before someone calls me an unknowing Union Basher I am the son of two Union members (Teacher & Contractors) and myself was in a Union (by force) and have seen what Unions can/will do.
Increased costs. This is how the unions drove Detroit to bankruptcy.
Unions are also part of the reason why all U.S. based airlines have bad customer services. You can't easily fire bad apples. Unions were created back to protect workers, but now they are political machines.
Unions are also part of the reason why all U.S. based airlines have bad customer services. You can't easily fire bad apples. Unions were created back to protect workers, but now they are political machines.
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Apr 22, 2014, 5:36 pm
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Apr 22, 2014, 5:47 pm
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But never mind that the U.S. also has airlines known for their customer service that are unionized (Hawaiian) or, for that matter, the airlines of many countries that are unionized --some that are more even more prone to clashing with management -- and also manage to have good customer service -- say, Qantas, British Airways . . .
Apr 22, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Airlines charge the highest fare the market will bear, regardless of cost (and if they don't, they are not doing their job for their shareholders). Higher costs make it harder for them to make a profit, yes, but those costs can't impact an airfare that should already be at the highest level the market will bear.
Apr 22, 2014, 7:20 pm
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Seriously. I learned from an early age that American cars are generally less reliable than Japanese cars.
Apr 22, 2014, 7:29 pm
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Good for them; it's about time.
I am management, but from what I have seen that JB's management did to the pilots, it was necessary. Management deserves what they got and will just have to pay themselves less in order to make it right.
Besides, management is generally incompetent at JB; consider the IROPs that no other airline has experienced over and over and over.
I am management, but from what I have seen that JB's management did to the pilots, it was necessary. Management deserves what they got and will just have to pay themselves less in order to make it right.
Besides, management is generally incompetent at JB; consider the IROPs that no other airline has experienced over and over and over.
Apr 22, 2014, 7:46 pm
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You do have a point so I shall amend my "And fares will go up and up" statement to "And Management will monetize to compensate" which means the loss of "freebies" such as the first bag flights free (hope that doesn't go even though I rarely check bags), increased charge for the second bag, changes in the complimentary and for purchase snacks/drinks and so on.
Airlines charge the highest fare the market will bear, regardless of cost (and if they don't, they are not doing their job for their shareholders). Higher costs make it harder for them to make a profit, yes, but those costs can't impact an airfare that should already be at the highest level the market will bear.
Apr 22, 2014, 9:04 pm
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You do have a point so I shall amend my "And fares will go up and up" statement to "And Management will monetize to compensate" which means the loss of "freebies" such as the first bag flights free (hope that doesn't go even though I rarely check bags), increased charge for the second bag, changes in the complimentary and for purchase snacks/drinks and so on.