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zipline1027 Sep 28, 2013 7:02 pm

JetBlue doesn't honor their commitments
 
My flight from NY to SFO was delayed by over 25 hours, all due to JetBlue's lack of planes and crew. As I awaited the last of my rerouted connections, in Long Beach, all of JetBlues departures were delayed, and no other airline's were. They did not even honor their so-called customer bill-of-rights as far as the credits it says they'd provide.
But that's OK, as I will never make the mistake of flying them again.

Often1 Sep 28, 2013 7:33 pm

How about some specifics? If you want advice, you need to tell us what happened. If you came to FT to do a one-time rant, well -- it's done.

MPScan Sep 29, 2013 12:35 pm

Ditto the above comment.

I'd love to know some circumstances. I have about 250,000 miles logged on JetBlue over the past four or five years.

In my experience, when there's a delay where JetBlue is at-fault, more than half the time I have an e-mail waiting on my phone by the time I land showing the credit they're giving us. In fact there were times where a small credit was given ($25 or $50) where I completely didn't expect it.

My experience has always been the exact opposite of your post.

rjburns Oct 4, 2013 8:16 pm

I travel for business 150,000 miles a year. I AVOID JetBlue whenever I can. Here's why:

1) JetBlue refuses to participate in TSA PreCheck
2) Frequencies between some city pairs are so low that if they cancel a flight you are either stuck overnight, stuck for 10-12 hours or buying a walk-up fare on another airline. A $25 voucher is basically worthless in this situation
3) Getting through security at T5/JFK is the worst in the USA
4) I'm still sore about losing all my frequent flyer credits from True Blue iteration # 1
5) I have had as many poor customer service experiences on JetBlue as on United/AA/Delta
6)Jet Blue is the same price as network carriers but with fewer options

I have no idea why Jet Blue thinks I'm going to pony up for MINT from JFK to LAX when there are perfectly good options on AA/Delta/United on the same routes and I can't/won't use Jet Blue for my other flying. See 2) above

Often1 Oct 4, 2013 8:21 pm

Agree on all fronts, but what does that have to do with OP's premise that the carrier doesn't honor its commitments. It's all disclosed and if you choose to pay for it, knowing all of the downsides, how is that a bad thing?

zrs70 Oct 5, 2013 9:04 am


Originally Posted by zipline1027 (Post 21521747)
My flight from NY to SFO was delayed by over 25 hours, all due to JetBlue's lack of planes and crew. As I awaited the last of my rerouted connections, in Long Beach, all of JetBlues departures were delayed, and no other airline's were. They did not even honor their so-called customer bill-of-rights as far as the credits it says they'd provide.
But that's OK, as I will never make the mistake of flying them again.

Sounds like a bad experience. But there's a difference between "B6 doesn't honor its commitments" and "B6 didn't honor its commitment."

As this seems to be a one off for the op, I would say it's the latter.

sbm12 Oct 5, 2013 9:39 am


Originally Posted by rjburns (Post 21556209)
1) JetBlue refuses to participate in TSA PreCheck

That's not really at all what happened or is happening, but feel free to believe it if you want.

JetBlue was not invited by the TSA to participate early on. They are now working on the IT systems integration work necessary to make it happen, but they have never "refused" to participate.


Originally Posted by rjburns (Post 21556209)
3) Getting through security at T5/JFK is the worst in the USA

MCO and IAD are worse IMO.

Firewind Oct 5, 2013 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by MPScan (Post 21524812)
Ditto the above comment.

I'd love to know some circumstances. I have about 250,000 miles logged on JetBlue over the past four or five years.

In my experience, when there's a delay where JetBlue is at-fault, more than half the time I have an e-mail waiting on my phone by the time I land showing the credit they're giving us. In fact there were times where a small credit was given ($25 or $50) where I completely didn't expect it. My experience has always been the exact opposite of your post.

I, too, would like to know more about the OP's experience, because I love JetBlue's hard product. But this post seems first to be damning with faint praise ("more than half the time"?) and second to be contradictory within itself -- "more than half the time" vs. "always". Maybe there's more than what you say? Thank you. :)

seawolf Oct 11, 2013 7:16 am


Originally Posted by zipline1027 (Post 21521747)
My flight from NY to SFO was delayed by over 25 hours, all due to JetBlue's lack of planes and crew. As I awaited the last of my rerouted connections, in Long Beach, all of JetBlues departures were delayed, and no other airline's were. They did not even honor their so-called customer bill-of-rights as far as the credits it says they'd provide.
But that's OK, as I will never make the mistake of flying them again.

Very vague post. What specifically did they no honored?


Originally Posted by rjburns (Post 21556209)
I travel for business 150,000 miles a year. I AVOID JetBlue whenever I can. Here's why:

1) JetBlue refuses to participate in TSA PreCheck
2) Frequencies between some city pairs are so low that if they cancel a flight you are either stuck overnight, stuck for 10-12 hours or buying a walk-up fare on another airline. A $25 voucher is basically worthless in this situation
3) Getting through security at T5/JFK is the worst in the USA
4) I'm still sore about losing all my frequent flyer credits from True Blue iteration # 1
5) I have had as many poor customer service experiences on JetBlue as on United/AA/Delta
6)Jet Blue is the same price as network carriers but with fewer options

I have no idea why Jet Blue thinks I'm going to pony up for MINT from JFK to LAX when there are perfectly good options on AA/Delta/United on the same routes and I can't/won't use Jet Blue for my other flying. See 2) above

If you are flying 150K a year, you should not be flying JetBlue as you would be top tier with the legacy carriers.

Out of my Element Oct 12, 2013 10:14 am

Do not expect a reply from the OP. They registered, posted, and have never returned to the boards.

sbm12 Oct 12, 2013 10:47 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 21590548)
If you are flying 150K a year, you should not be flying JetBlue as you would be top tier with the legacy carriers.

That is a somewhat sweeping judgment. It is entirely possible that JetBlue fits well for some needs of a passenger who flies that many miles in a year. I know it does for me.

bmg42000 Oct 12, 2013 2:03 pm

B6 150k miles
 

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 21590548)
Very vague post. What specifically did they no honored?



If you are flying 150K a year, you should not be flying JetBlue as you would be top tier with the legacy carriers.

If you are doing the NYC-FL shuttle then B6 could be a top choice with options from all 3 NYC airports . If you qualify for Mosaic then you get free flight changes would is quite a good benefit . If earning the miles on flights overseas then that is a different situation. Depends on where your travel is. If you are flying to the Midwest then B6 would not be a good choice.

seawolf Oct 15, 2013 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 21596181)
Quote:





Originally Posted by seawolf


If you are flying 150K a year, you should not be flying JetBlue as you would be top tier with the legacy carriers.




That is a somewhat sweeping judgment. It is entirely possible that JetBlue fits well for some needs of a passenger who flies that many miles in a year. I know it does for me.

But then what are you going to do with the miles? Jetblue doesn't serve many destinations and limited redemption on partners. A legacy carrier provides more redemption options and higher value especially on premium cabin awards.

sbm12 Oct 17, 2013 11:27 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 21614016)
But then what are you going to do with the miles? Jetblue doesn't serve many destinations

They serve a whole bunch of places I'm interested in visiting ex-NYC.

Plus, there can be value in flying just because the experience is better, even if the points are worse. Points are not (and, IMO should not be) the only motivation when booking a flight.

bmg42000 Oct 18, 2013 7:29 am

Better value on higher value fares
 

Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 21623801)
They serve a whole bunch of places I'm interested in visiting ex-NYC.

Plus, there can be value in flying just because the experience is better, even if the points are worse. Points are not (and, IMO should not be) the only motivation when booking a flight.

If you are stuck flying over XMAS holiday you more points when flying B6 or UA. For a 400$ fare you get 2400 B6 points which is could pay for 1/4 of an average (100$ fare) flight. On UA you would get a 1000 miles (assuming its NYC-FLA flight) which would pay for 1/10th of a flight . With family pooling it gets much better deal for families . Clearly if B6 does not have the frequency or locations than one should not fly them. If I needed to fly for business on a route B6 only had 1 flight a day, I most likely would not use them. With the new pooling option it may make sense for people to fly B6 for vacation and leave the business flying to a legacy carrier.


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