Edwardvan

I think it unlikely.

Jet Blue has built their brand on an egalitarian trade.

nerd

Which carriers would you be referring to? Because Delta, Continental/United, American, USAirways, et al, offer full credit.

You can probably add Alaska, Southwest, and more to that list.

Dieuwer

In case of DL Skymiles: AM, CZ, HA, SU, UX, VN

nerd

Ah, mileage earning on alliance partners. Luckily B6 doesn't have that problem, generally.

Anyway, back on topic. We were discussing how it's so much easier to understand point-earning rules on JetBlue... thoughts?

Dieuwer

LOL

Yeah, I still hold out hope of B6 joining OW. Or at least sign a bigger deal with AA.

sbm12

Nonetheless, it is coming.
If that were the program with the legacies than I might buy the argument, but it isn't. For the legacies it is "earn one point per mile flown unless you fly 25K miles/year in which case you earn 1.25 on additional miles flown until you fly 50K/year at which point you earn 1.5 on additional miles flown unless you fly paid full-fare coach in which case you earn 1.5 RDMs and 1.25 EQMs per mile flown or paid business which might earn more if it is full-fare business or discount business but keeping track is just as hard."

None of them are easy to understand.

sbm12

The partner with which they have the tightest FF partnership is also alliance-free. There is no indication that anything remotely close to membership in a global alliance is coming or even desired by the company. Besides, if you were running an unaffiliated airline today, would you get into be with oneworld? I would stay the hell away until they stabilized a LOT.

Dieuwer

HA?

nerd

True, I did over-simplify. However, it's still possible to earn points at a constant rate throughout the year.

joshwex90

It's also comparing miles per miles flown as opposed to miles per dollars spent. Looking at miles per spend, most credit cards offer 1 mile per $1 unless it's spent on gas or groceries or on the airline's website..., so you do stil have variation

Dieuwer

Since you can earn AA miles on many B6 routes, would you rather do that or earn Trueblue points?

sbm12

The number of routes where you can earn AA points is very small, actually.

If you value both AA and B6 points at a penny per then the easy answer is that any flight more than $87 booked online is worth more credited to B6. IME the B6 points are actually worth more than that, somewhere around 1.3 cents on average, so that dollar figure drops a bit. Of course, if you increase your valuation of AA points then the price factor necessarily increases.

Then again, bifurcating your points decreases the value of them unless you really have a lot to play with.

joshwex90

I did not understand anything after ">$87 is worth more credited to B6 than to AA"

sbm12

At 6 points per dollar you get 500 points for $83 spend (I was close) so if you spend more than that you get more points. If you consider the points the same value then spending more than that means more points accrued by crediting to B6 than to AA for a short flight. I'm also not so sure, based on the way the credit rule is written, if there is the 500 mile minimum, so for shorter flights I'm not even sure there is the 500 mile minimum. With 15 of the AA-creditable flights coming in at <500 miles that's a significant number of routes where the credit to AA really isn't so amazing.

If you value the B6 points higher then earning fewer of them relative to the number of miles flown still has more value. So if the B6 points are worth 1.3 cents and the AA points are 1 cent then 384 B6 points would be worth something like 500 AA points, and earning 384 B6 points costs less than earning 500 B6 points.

Does that make more sense?

bmg42000

Also if you only fly B6 once a year then you should give the points to AA since you are more likely to use them. Earning points is nice but you need to use them