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Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 7977145)
I guess it's because I've never looked too deeply into staying at "TOP LUXURY ryokans". http://www.jnto.go.jp/syd/arrange/ac...ons/index.html None of my (British) guidebooks encourage me to tip.
Perhaps it would be more helpful to try and figure out what percentage of ryokans are 'top luxury' ones, and how much they usually cost so one can recognise them. That should stop anyone who might get concerned with tipping doing so needlessly. What are the tell tale signs of a 'top luxury' ryokan where this sort of practice may or may not be expected? Masako san said that there are very few Westerners who came to Kagaya but around a hundred Taiwanese every year. As you recall, Taiwan was ruled by Japan upto WWII. I learned a lot of tidbits from her. Such as the belt on yukata is worn below the belly for men and below the bosom for women. So I was wearing the belt like a woman before.:) |
Here's more from the Japan Ryokan Assoc.
http://www.ryokan.or.jp/english/pdf/...y_of_terms.pdf |
Thanks! - that should be authoritive enough
Originally Posted by Japan Ryokan Association
...some guests offer kokoro-zuke when staying at a ryokan. When doing so, the guests usually wrap the money or place it in a small envelope called a pochi-bukero and hand it as a shougi (generous tip), sunshi (small token of appreciation), or chadai (small tip) usually given to the room attendant. The kokoro-zuke is given at various timings, such as upon arrival, at dinnertime, or upon departure. The amount is usually 10% of the accommodation charge, but as a kokoro-zuke is at the discretion of each guest, there are no set rules. Some ryokans firmly decline gifts of kokoro-zuke.
(There have been some viscious fights over this subject on the China forum, I'm just hoping to 'contain' it here so it doesn't get out of hand) |
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 7977407)
Thanks! - that should be authoritive enough
BTW - Pochi-Bukuro (spelling).
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 7977407)
(There have been some viscious fights over this subject on the China forum, I'm just hoping to 'contain' it here so it doesn't get out of hand)
I know that the China forum has seen disputes about whether it is right to tip in China. But I doubt the folks there have ever been locked in a dispute about whether there is a tradition of presenting gratuities in Japanese Ryokan. Since the tradition of gratuities in ryokan is a pretty straightforward point of fact rather than an opinion, I don't know how long anyone could sustain an argument about it... But FT is full of surprises like that, I suppose. |
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 7977145)
None of my (British) guidebooks encourage me to tip.
TimeOut, Wallpaper City Guide... |
Originally Posted by jib71
(Post 7977843)
Which guidebooks are British?
TimeOut, Wallpaper City Guide... |
Originally Posted by jib71
(Post 7977843)
Which guidebooks are British?
TimeOut, Wallpaper City Guide... "none of my (bought in British bookstores or borrowed from British libraries) guidebooks encourage me to tip" or better still "none of the guidebooks I've consulted (bought in British bookstores or borrowed from British libraries) have encouraged me to tip" Putting 'British' in was to point out that I am unfamiliar with certain publications that might be popular in other countries. |
what about tipping movers?
I get that, in general, there is no tipping in Japan. However, someone also mentioned there are exceptions.
What about movers? I just relocated to Tokyo. Will I need to tip the movers who will be unloading and unpacking my furniture and household goods? In all the other countries where I've moved to/from, the movers all expect to be tipped generously. Perhaps not in Japan? |
A tip is not needed or expected. HAving said that, any group of people sweating in this heat will definitely appreciate cold drinks now and then. If the volume of stuff is massive, a couple of times offering them cold drinks in individual containers they can take and drink by the truck will likely go over very well.
Mike
Originally Posted by sfvoyage
(Post 7988540)
I get that, in general, there is no tipping in Japan. However, someone also mentioned there are exceptions.
What about movers? I just relocated to Tokyo. Will I need to tip the movers who will be unloading and unpacking my furniture and household goods? In all the other countries where I've moved to/from, the movers all expect to be tipped generously. Perhaps not in Japan? |
Originally Posted by mjm
(Post 7988835)
A tip is not needed or expected. HAving said that, any group of people sweating in this heat will definitely appreciate cold drinks now and then. If the volume of stuff is massive, a couple of times offering them cold drinks in individual containers they can take and drink by the truck will likely go over very well.
Mike |
Originally Posted by mjm
(Post 7988835)
A tip is not needed or expected. HAving said that, any group of people sweating in this heat will definitely appreciate cold drinks now and then. If the volume of stuff is massive, a couple of times offering them cold drinks in individual containers they can take and drink by the truck will likely go over very well.
Mike |
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 7977145)
...Perhaps it would be more helpful to try and figure out what percentage of ryokans are 'top luxury' ones, and how much they usually cost so one can recognise them.
... http://www.japaneseguesthouses.com/ |
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