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lianluo Oct 1, 2006 5:01 am

Train help please
 
Aloha all,

I will be staying at the Renaissance in the Ginza area and will need to get to the Odakyu Line. Does anyone know how to do that, which transfer station?
Thank you for any advice.

LapLap Oct 1, 2006 5:43 am

Odakyu line is the one I use to get to the Nihon Minka En near Noborito. You can to go to Shinjuku to get it. There's also a connection to the Odakyu line at Yoyogi Uehara on the Chiyoda subway line which might be easier (from Ginza take the Ginza line to Omote sando and change for the Chiyoda line there, or get onto the Chiyoda line at Hibiya station)

You can get to Shinjuku directly on the Marunouchi line - but it's a monster of a station and finding the Odakyu line connection might be tricky.

I don't actually know where in Ginza the Rennaissance is, so I'm assuming Ginza station is your most convenient local station.

If you are in the area, do check out the "Nihon Minka En " it's a 15 minute walk from Noborito station. A beautiful place to visit (admission is about 500yen, but more than worth it)

Link to subway map: http://www.tokyometro.jp/e/index.html

RichardInSF Oct 1, 2006 12:36 pm

I just love the station name "Noborito," because for some silly reason it makes me think of a limited service Mexican restaurant -- you know, one which serves "no burritos!"

The hotel's website has a lousy map on it which says the closest subway station is Higashi-Ginza, on the Hibiya and TOEI Asakusa lines. Not that convenient, but fairly straightforward. You should probably take the Hibiya line to Kasumigaseki and transfer to the Chiyoda line to Yoyogi-uehara to catch the Odakyu line.

If you are going any distance on the Odakyu line, you should wait for some flavor of express train instead of taking a local, even if it later means transfering back to a local. There is a large time difference.

LapLap Oct 1, 2006 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by RichardInSF
I just love the station name "Noborito," because for some silly reason it makes me think of a limited service Mexican restaurant -- you know, one which serves "no burritos!"

Yours is much more innocent than mine. I get even more tickled by the Japanese man's name: 'Nobita'. Puerile Anglo/Spanish humour of the basest kind there.... :o

yosithezet Nov 20, 2006 4:14 am

Trying to do some planning ahead of time.

I'm considering staying at the Century Hyatt Tokyo and my meetings are next to the Suitengumae Station. From what I can tell from the Metro Map I'd want to do the following.

Walk from hotel to Shinjuku Subway Station
Take Shinjuku line (S02) to Kudan....a Station
Switch to the Hanzomon Line (Z06)
Get off at Suitengumae Station (Z10) and walk to my destination


However, the Hyperedia Timetable is giving me lots of other options but not the one above.

What am I doing wrong here?

mcg1000 Nov 20, 2006 4:35 am

Yahoo! Transit also advises a Jimbocho change -- don't know why. Kudansh*ta is just as good...

Marq Nov 20, 2006 4:58 am


Originally Posted by yosithezet
Trying to do some planning ahead of time.

I'm considering staying at the Century Hyatt Tokyo and my meetings are next to the Suitengumae Station. From what I can tell from the Metro Map I'd want to do the following.

Walk from hotel to Shinjuku Subway Station
Take Shinjuku line (S02) to Kudan....a Station
Switch to the Hanzomon Line (Z06)
Get off at Suitengumae Station (Z10) and walk to my destination


However, the Hyperedia Timetable is giving me lots of other options but not the one above.

What am I doing wrong here?

Your hotel is situated right on top of Tochomae Station. I would go for the easy route and avoid Shinjuku Station.

Take Toei Oedo from Tochomae to Aoyamaichome. Connect to the Hanzomon line to Suitengumae. It is a little longer (based on an 0800 departure) than switching to Toie Shinjuku line at Shinjuku and switching again at Jinbocho but will end up being much easier on the feet and will guarantee you a seat for at least the first leg of your trip.

Marc

yosithezet Nov 20, 2006 4:59 am


Originally Posted by mcg1000
Yahoo! Transit also advises a Jimbocho change -- don't know why. Kudansh*ta is just as good...

Considering that Yahoo! Transit is for people in Japan there is no reason to expect that it would be in English, but by chance, is there an English version of their page?

juiciking Nov 20, 2006 5:13 am

Good Train Map!
 
Try this website its been very helpful to me. http://www.zone81.com/arch_sections/...vel_calculator

jib71 Nov 20, 2006 7:19 am

What Marq said - Take the elevator from your hotel to Tochomae station. And take Oedo line from there.

Yahoo Travel only works if you can read Japanese - but it does allow you to input station names in romaji. Hyperdia is usually just as effective.

railroadtycoon Nov 20, 2006 3:30 pm


However, the Hyperedia Timetable is giving me lots of other options but not the one above.

What am I doing wrong here?
You aren't doing anything wrong to say, there are many many route options one can take to get to your final destination.

yosithezet Nov 20, 2006 4:27 pm

Thanks all for the assistance. Special thanks to jib71 for mentioning Marq's post. I had missed it totally since it was posted within a minute of mine.

RichardInSF Nov 20, 2006 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by Marq
....It is a little longer (based on an 0800 departure) than switching to Toie Shinjuku line at Shinjuku and switching again at Jinbocho but will end up being much easier on the feet and will guarantee you a seat for at least the first leg of your trip.

Marc

Don't count on the seat. The Oedo line cars are smaller than the older subway lines (it's been criticized for this) and as a result is often way more crowded.
Still, if you are switching at Aoyama 1 Chome, you are on the train only for a few minutes.

Marq Nov 20, 2006 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by RichardInSF
Don't count on the seat. The Oedo line cars are smaller than the older subway lines (it's been criticized for this) and as a result is often way more crowded.
Still, if you are switching at Aoyama 1 Chome, you are on the train only for a few minutes.

I may be mistaken as I have only taken this route less than ten times. Each time, the train is totally empty heading from Tochomae to Roppongi as the train starts in Tochomae. The Oedo line is strange in that it is a circle along with a spur. For example, to get from Shinjuku Nishiguchi to Roppongi on Oedo line you can go to Tochomae and change trains or take route clockwise with a trip that is three to four times as long. I made the mistake once of going to Shinjuku Station and mistakenly following signs to Toei Oedo line at Shinjuku Nishiguchi instead of finding the Toei Shinjuku station. Not only did I have a long walk to Shinjuku Nishiguchi but I ended up back at Tochomae to change.

Maybe it is just me but I find that the "old timers" have nothing good to say about the "relatively new" Toei Oedo line while us newbies seem to find it convenient.

Marc

mjm Nov 20, 2006 6:06 pm

Tochomae to Aoyama 1-Chome is the winner in my book too. Did it for 21 nights while I had $2 nights at the nearby Hilton. :)

And I live about 50 yards from an Oedo line station so I will always go that route to Roppongi even though I end up about ten floors below ground at Roppongi Station. Plenty of eye candy on the escalators there though so no major inconvenience. :) And they have some of the best placed repeaters in the city on the Oedo line. Almost perfect reception everywhere far underground.

Still I find most taxis have the best reception. ;)

So one more vote for the deep deep underground from this old timer.



Originally Posted by Marq
Maybe it is just me but I find that the "old timers" have nothing good to say about the "relatively new" Toei Oedo line while us newbies seem to find it convenient.

Marc



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