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crankyusi Mar 20, 2006 12:22 pm

Train schedule and cost between NGO-KIX?
 
Can anyone provide an English-friendly train schedule (assuming there is one) between KIX and NGO, and how much it cost? We don't know yet which airport we'll be flying inbound\outbound yet, and we may need to travel between KIX and NGO somehow. Looks like its only 115 miles or so, and apparently there's no flight service, so maybe a train service? Thank you.

bobes Mar 20, 2006 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by crankyusi
Can anyone provide an English-friendly train schedule (assuming there is one) between KIX and NGO, and how much it cost? We don't know yet which airport we'll be flying inbound\outbound yet, and we may need to travel between KIX and NGO somehow. Looks like its only 115 miles or so, and apparently there's no flight service, so maybe a train service? Thank you.


Start here

It's from Shin Osaka instead of KIX, but you can get to Shin Osaka by train easily.

KIX train info

cockpitvisit Mar 20, 2006 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by crankyusi
Can anyone provide an English-friendly train schedule (assuming there is one) between KIX and NGO, and how much it cost? We don't know yet which airport we'll be flying inbound\outbound yet, and we may need to travel between KIX and NGO somehow. Looks like its only 115 miles or so, and apparently there's no flight service, so maybe a train service? Thank you.

I find http://www.hyperdia.com very convenient for japanese train schedules, because this website will calculate connections automatically.

Click "English".
Start Point: Kansai
Destination: Chubu (change to "Chubu International Airport" one screen later).

abmj-jr Mar 20, 2006 12:46 pm

Do you actually need to travel between Kansai International and Centrair International airports? Or are you looking for information on trains between Kyoto or Osaka and Nagoya?

Travel between the cities is straight forward, one segment of train travel, either by shinkansen or local. From KIX to NGO would require at least 3 segments, with 2 transfers - KIX to Shin-Osaka, Shin-Osaka to Nagoya and Nagoya to NGO. Try Hyperdia:

http://grace.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperd01.cgi

JR

crankyusi Mar 20, 2006 1:14 pm

Thank you very much everybody, now I feel like an expert and I haven't ever been on those trains.

Yes abmj-jr, its airport to airport. Trying to fly into Guam on Star Alliance, which is served by NH ex-KIX only. Finding award flights from the USA to KIX is rough at times, so we were thinking of flying into NGO nonstop from SFO, then from NGO to KIX via train, etc. Finding award flights from KIX to SFO can also be a bruiser, so we're looking at ex-NGO on the return too so we'd need to find a way to get from KIX-NGO. If there was a cheapie $300-ish roundtrip flight from NGO or KIX to GUM on any carrier (Continental, JL, etc), we'd be happy to spend that too (use award miles for the SFO-Japan) as often times the KIX-GUM isn't readily available using UA miles.

Again, thank you everybody.

jib71 Mar 22, 2006 1:59 am


Originally Posted by crankyusi
If there was a cheapie $300-ish roundtrip flight from NGO or KIX to GUM on any carrier (Continental, JL, etc), we'd be happy to spend that too (use award miles for the SFO-Japan) as often times the KIX-GUM isn't readily available using UA miles.

(1) Does the Star Alliance Award cover the entire journey from the SFO to GUM as a single award? If so, then I would guess that the most likely route would be as follows:

SFO-NRT , then change airport to HND, HND-KIX, KIX-GUM
.... and the same in reverse for the return journey.

(2) If you are thinking of using miles to get an SFO-Japan award and then a separate award for Japan-GUM ...

Did you consider buying a cheapie flight with JL from NRT to GUM to NRT?

Number One travel in Tokyo might be able to set you up with a Flight + Hotel package for as little as 40,000 yen
http://www.no1-travel.com/beach/gumd01.htm

When you consider that the train from NGO-KIX-NGO will cost you more than 18,000 per person.... and waste 4 hours each way.... it might be better to use NRT as your connecting airport and fly with JAL to GUM.

crankyusi Mar 22, 2006 9:18 am

Jib71,

Thank you much. Yes, its one award for 90k UA miles in biz, SFO-GUM roundtrip. We've done this a few times, SFO-ua-KIX nonstop, then connect KIX-nh-GUM, and then reverse for the trip home. (side note, NRT-KIX isn't allowed as part of the SFO-GUM award trip, don't know why though)
On some dates the SFO-KIX is available but the KIX-GUM isn't, and vice versa. SFO-NGO on the UA nonstop seems to be more readily available. That's why I posted about the NGO-KIX train schedule, and was surprised its a few hours each direction. Didn't realize the price would be that expensive.

Thank you much for that travel agent link. We are indeed flexible on which gateway ex-Japan we fly from for the flights to\fro Guam. I'll check out that website you mentioned.

I appreciate your help very very much.

Crankyusi

jib71 Mar 22, 2006 10:57 am

Would they allow SFO-ICN-KIX-GUM?

Or maybe even
SFO-ICN (and then get Korean airlines from ICN to GUM).

crankyusi Mar 22, 2006 11:10 am


Originally Posted by jib71
Would they allow SFO-ICN-KIX-GUM?

Or maybe even
SFO-ICN (and then get Korean airlines from ICN to GUM).

Yes, the sfo-icn-kix-gum is allowable but no availability on the sfo-icn (either SQ or UA flights were thoroughly researched but no availability).

Risk of doing the UA\KE combo is that 2 separate PNRs\TIX since one would be an award and the other on revenue, and if the UA fligtht was late the prepaid KE ticket may not be honored.

Many thanks again.

Cranky


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