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CHSBoater Apr 11, 2025 9:33 am

Tipping Tour Guide?
 
We've booked Context Travel for a full day tour of Tokyo. I'm a bit confused about the conflict between Japan's no tipping custom and Context's FAQ on tipping which reads
Is it okay to tip my guide in Japan?
Yes. Context clients generally tip anywhere from 10-25% of the purchase price of a personal service such as this, depending on the quality of the experience and their tipping habits.
I'll probably offer a tip as it's the path of least resistance, but would appreciate everyone's thoughts on this.

Jinxed_K Apr 11, 2025 9:49 am

Their general FAQ also states 'Tipping is always appreciated, though not obligatory.'
It sounds like it should be ok with going with the local custom of not tipping, but if you offer one, the worst you'll run into is they'll refuse it saying it's not necessary.

freecia Apr 11, 2025 11:02 am

I'd tip the tour guide with one go around of polite insistence if they first reject it. My family used to take guided multi-day bus tours in Japan a few decades ago for Mandarin speaking foreigners and tipping was definitely expected for the whole tour and local guides (paid out by multilingual whole tour guide). Their company pay was set with tipping in mind.

I don't tip instructors at classes offered to locals and foreigners.

AlwaysAisle Apr 11, 2025 2:49 pm

Context Travel is non-Japanese company proving tours to non-Japanese visitors in Japan. I think this is why Context Travel is saying is that their clients typically tip 10-25%. Same time does Context Travel inform their clients that tips are generally not a norm in Japan?

There are a lot of guided tours in Japan by local Japanese tour companies provided to Japanese (which actually are quite popular), and in those tours there are no tips given to tour guides or drivers. Lately I have seen more tourist traps in Japan, where primary target customers are non-Japanese visitors and not many local Japanese will partake in the service. I am wondering if this is the direction Japan is going, non-Japanese visitors and locals are segregated. Unfortunately, I have seen at tourist locations in Japan that obviously aiming to non-Japanese visitors and displaying tip as a norm.

freecia Apr 11, 2025 6:06 pm

Slight O/T


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 37020693)
There are a lot of guided tours in Japan by local Japanese tour companies provided to Japanese (which actually are quite popular), and in those tours there are no tips given to tour guides or drivers. Lately I have seen more tourist traps in Japan, where primary target customers are non-Japanese visitors and not many local Japanese will partake in the service. I am wondering if this is the direction Japan is going, non-Japanese visitors and locals are segregated. Unfortunately, I have seen at tourist locations in Japan that obviously aiming to non-Japanese visitors and displaying tip as a norm.

I think this tourist market split has been there for some time. There's always been Japanese bus tours like Hato, HIS, Sunrise and JTB which mostly offered tours in Japanese, booked mostly from a physical travel agency office well beyond when internet bookings would/should have taken off. Some do/did offer some tour support in other languages with Japanese guides but I remember reading foreign guest complaints of things lost in translation. Perhaps that has improved?

I have been on a decent amount of tours, though not recently. I feel it's somewhat fair to say various American guests may take a different kind of guide approach and knowledge base than Japanese. Just like some of the Asian guests want time for shopping (possibly check Klook for tours geared towards Asian language speakers). I imagine guides have their preferred customer targets & group sizes, too, not solely based on prospective gratuities and language abilities. There's also the inflation felt by domestic guests and weaker yen for foreign ones.

The increasing languages normally spoken by tourist adjacent staff beyond Japanese due to the foreign tourist market expansion is both a pro and con, imo. I have mixed feelings about that as someone who appreciates the multilingual convenience & increased cultural exchanges but misses the actual feeling of being in Japan with mostly Japanese speaking guests with more traditional Japanese service in core tourist areas. But my long standing preference is to not talk to anyone & poke a machine or website when possible which works nicely with the automation for cost cutting and labor shortages. Younger domestic travelers also seem to prefer less traditional service coupled with slightly more flexible/updated hospitality (coffee, beer, and wifi at ryokans finally mainstream, but alas for me, also an amenity downgrade/trade off from loose leaf to cheap tea bags/PET bottle which is probably less wasteful). Such is the path towards 60 million inbound travelers per year.

jib71 Apr 12, 2025 9:12 am

Tipping in Japan? Sounds like an Oblivious To Context tour. Be sure to wear toilet slippers the whole time.

alan11 Apr 12, 2025 4:48 pm

While tipping in restaurants in Japan is not done, there is indeed a tipping culture in Japan for a slew of other services though most visitors probably wouldn't encounter it.

Contrary to what's usually said about Japan, with many personalized services tipping is certainly done, but its seen more as a "thank you payment". Sometimes it is given as cash, other times its a gift, and sometimes both. For example, if a Shinto priest comes to bless your land for a groundbreaking ceremony, there isn't necessarily a fixed amount for this service discussed beforehand, but at the end a payment is given, and often it can be quite more substantial than you could ever imagine. And even if there is an agreed amount but you felt the service went beyond it, then an extra amount is often given. The examples are many, especially when it is something that is done more as a individual doing personalized service and/or going well out of their way to accommodate your needs, rather than a company employee just doing their job. A monk doing funeral rites for a family member... a traditional gardener who rescued a cherished tree after being wrecked in a wind storm... even I get this, like when I go cut the otherwise deep weeds around my old neighbor's grave every month. We never agreed on any payment, but none of the descendants live around the area anymore, yet they come to visit the grave a few times a year, and every time they give me some snazzy fruit, a six pack of beer, lots of 'thank yous", and at New Years they include an envelope with a few thousand yen. Indeed, when Japanese "tip" in these instances, they are genuinely thankful when giving and don't see it as some required gesture (like how many tips in places such as the US can feel...)

For a tour guide, it's a bit of a grey area, but the more personalized the tour is, the more understandable that a thank you tip would appreciated by the guide and that it would in fact be culturally normal. So if you are in communication beforehand with a guide for any planning beyond the stated tour, and they are responding well to your queries and offering further advice or suggestions, then you would probably already know before going the level of personalization you are encountering (but as noted above, they may do the obligatory polite refusal upon first offer, but after a equally requisite polite insistence by you they will almost welcomingly take it with a deeply humble thanks). But its not required or expected necessarily, and not doing so will still mean the same service.

But if deciding to tip, do note that giving cash out in the open directly is really awkward. Put any tip in an envelope (don't give coins), and maybe write a brief message of thanks on it (don't write in cursive since even those skilled in English probably can't read it). Any of the 100 yen shops will sell a wide range of gift money envelopes in the stationary section, some are small which need the bills to be folded into quarters, others are the size of the bills themselves, but don't get one thats super elaborate with multi-color ribbons twisted around it (those are for weddings) and definitely don't get one printed with a black and white ribbon (those are for funerals). And if you don't have an envelope, just put the money in a folded piece of paper.

JapanFlyerT Apr 12, 2025 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by CHSBoater (Post 37020092)
We've booked Context Travel for a full day tour of Tokyo. I'm a bit confused about the conflict between Japan's no tipping custom and Context's FAQ on tipping which reads
Is it okay to tip my guide in Japan?
Yes. Context clients generally tip anywhere from 10-25% of the purchase price of a personal service such as this, depending on the quality of the experience and their tipping habits.
I'll probably offer a tip as it's the path of least resistance, but would appreciate everyone's thoughts on this.

Sounds like instructions for (guilt-ridden) Americans who can't believe there are places where tipping doesn't exist.

mjm Apr 12, 2025 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by alan11 (Post 37022625)
While tipping in restaurants in Japan is not done, there is indeed a tipping culture in Japan for a slew of other services though most visitors probably wouldn't encounter it.

Contrary to what's usually said about Japan, with many personalized services tipping is certainly done, but its seen more as a "thank you payment". Sometimes it is given as cash, other times its a gift, and sometimes both. For example, if a Shinto priest comes to bless your land for a groundbreaking ceremony, there isn't necessarily a fixed amount for this service discussed beforehand, but at the end a payment is given, and often it can be quite more substantial than you could ever imagine. And even if there is an agreed amount but you felt the service went beyond it, then an extra amount is often given. The examples are many, especially when it is something that is done more as a individual doing personalized service and/or going well out of their way to accommodate your needs, rather than a company employee just doing their job. A monk doing funeral rites for a family member... a traditional gardener who rescued a cherished tree after being wrecked in a wind storm... even I get this, like when I go cut the otherwise deep weeds around my old neighbor's grave every month. We never agreed on any payment, but none of the descendants live around the area anymore, yet they come to visit the grave a few times a year, and every time they give me some snazzy fruit, a six pack of beer, lots of 'thank yous", and at New Years they include an envelope with a few thousand yen. Indeed, when Japanese "tip" in these instances, they are genuinely thankful when giving and don't see it as some required gesture (like how many tips in places such as the US can feel...)

For a tour guide, it's a bit of a grey area, but the more personalized the tour is, the more understandable that a thank you tip would appreciated by the guide and that it would in fact be culturally normal. So if you are in communication beforehand with a guide for any planning beyond the stated tour, and they are responding well to your queries and offering further advice or suggestions, then you would probably already know before going the level of personalization you are encountering (but as noted above, they may do the obligatory polite refusal upon first offer, but after a equally requisite polite insistence by you they will almost welcomingly take it with a deeply humble thanks). But its not required or expected necessarily, and not doing so will still mean the same service.

But if deciding to tip, do note that giving cash out in the open directly is really awkward. Put any tip in an envelope (don't give coins), and maybe write a brief message of thanks on it (don't write in cursive since even those skilled in English probably can't read it). Any of the 100 yen shops will sell a wide range of gift money envelopes in the stationary section, some are small which need the bills to be folded into quarters, others are the size of the bills themselves, but don't get one thats super elaborate with multi-color ribbons twisted around it (those are for weddings) and definitely don't get one printed with a black and white ribbon (those are for funerals). And if you don't have an envelope, just put the money in a folded piece of paper.

While a tip is certainly a kind of gift, the gifts and stipend described in this post are not typically considered to be described as a tip.

To top up an amount of money paid is usually what we think of when we use the word tip. And as such that is inappropriate in Japan.

The giving of gifts and” thank your presents” and presents which can possibly only best be described as “respect presents” is, however, something which is practiced but entirely different from the concept of adding something to an already established price.

In short, for point of reference for Americans, who love to give extra money for already established bill prices, no the giving of a tip is not appropriate here at all.




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