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chwu60 Aug 16, 2021 8:50 pm

19 hour layover in NRT
 
Hi all, I recently bought a ticket on JAL from SFO to TPE, and layover in NRT. Originally the layover in NRT would be 3 hours but I was just notified that the original flight from NRT to TPE got canceled, and the only flight available is the next day, which now gives me a 19 hour layover.

So I can't enter Japan to stay at a hotel, and the JAL lounge closes after 10pm, and I think the NRT's capsule hotel is outside of border control. Are there any other options I can do beside just crashing from on an airport bleacher overnight?

Thanks in advance.

nishimark Aug 16, 2021 9:15 pm

There are no overnight layovers allowed at NRT without entering Japan. Because of corona, tourists cannot enter, so the answer is it won't work.
https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/topinfo/in...fo_tool_flag=1

On the other hand, it might be possible at Haneda, the other Tokyo airport. You need to check with your carrier.

invalyd Aug 16, 2021 9:29 pm


Originally Posted by chwu60 (Post 33496645)
Hi all, I recently bought a ticket on JAL from TPE to SFO, and layover in NRT. Originally the layover in NRT would be 3 hours but I was just notified that the original flight from NRT to TPE got canceled, and the only flight available is the next day, which now gives me a 19 hour layover.

So I can't enter Japan to stay at a hotel, and the JAL lounge closes after 10pm, and I think the NRT's capsule hotel is outside of border control. Are there any other options I can do beside just crashing from on an airport bleacher overnight?

Thanks in advance.

I am not even sure if the bleachers will be an option as the terminal closes overnight. I would try to find another connection or be prepared for JAL to potentially cancel your ticket or deny boarding.

s0ssos Aug 16, 2021 10:43 pm

I think you cannot stay in NRT overnight. I looked last year when connections were hard.
I think you can ask in another forum about help getting to TPE (though I am unclear if you are going or coming from TPE) as options are probably quite limited.

chwu60 Aug 16, 2021 10:47 pm

Hi All - Thanks for the answers, yeah NRT doesn't allow overnight, and now my flight has been canceled. Gonna have to look for other ways, thank you!

ainternational Aug 17, 2021 6:54 am


Originally Posted by chwu60 (Post 33496801)
Hi All - Thanks for the answers, yeah NRT doesn't allow overnight, and now my flight has been canceled. Gonna have to look for other ways, thank you!

I hope you mean your ticket has been cancelled. JAL should never ever ticket an overnight NRT connection as of 3 months after immigration changes in Japan due to COVID, even for cancelled segments. Your whole ticket (not flight) should have been cancelled if there was a flight cancellation or time change which triggered an overnight stay as the only option.

I assume that’s what happened - a segment was cancelled and JAL cancelled your entire ticket because the only available connection included a now invalid (due to immigration policy changes re COVID) layover at Narita.

MSPeconomist Aug 17, 2021 10:18 am

Has the OP looked for alternative flights through HND on JAL or other carriers? If there are such possibilities, JAL should have rebooked (for free) rather than cancelling the ticket.

Topcare Aug 18, 2021 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 33498025)
Has the OP looked for alternative flights through HND on JAL or other carriers? If there are such possibilities, JAL should have rebooked (for free) rather than cancelling the ticket.

Maybe a cost thing? I see EVA is still flying to NA last I checked.

MSPeconomist Aug 18, 2021 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by Topcare (Post 33502015)
Maybe a cost thing? I see EVA is still flying to NA last I checked.

Yeah, but my point is that if the OP could have been rerouted through HND rather than NRT, that should hav happened rather than having the ticket cancelled. Beyond that, OP needs to check various available alternatives and make a decision.

Topcare Aug 18, 2021 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 33502538)
Yeah, but my point is that if the OP could have been rerouted through HND rather than NRT, that should hav happened rather than having the ticket cancelled. Beyond that, OP needs to check various available alternatives and make a decision.

probably points flights and subject to the whim of the person on the end of a phone line.

Vyvd Sep 1, 2021 12:54 pm

Are overnight layovers at HND allowed? I am thinking of doing JFK-HND on NH and HND-TSA on BR, with the flights on two separate PNRs.

paperwastage Sep 1, 2021 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by Vyvd (Post 33536404)
Are overnight layovers at HND allowed? I am thinking of doing JFK-HND on NH and HND-TSA on BR, with the flights on two separate PNRs.

supposedly with a max of 72 hour, but obviously separate tickets at that length would be tricky (cause all of this is unwritten YMMV)

best would be just 1 overnight

believe transit hotel still closed (website unchanged)< and lounge still not operating overnight
https://www.the-royalpark.jp/the/tok...de=view&id=126

Vyvd Sep 1, 2021 10:31 pm

Thanks. It'll just be a 13 hour overnight layover, but it doesn't sound too appealing with no lounge or transit hotel. I will look at other ways to get to Taiwan.

paperwastage Sep 2, 2021 4:44 am


Originally Posted by Vyvd (Post 33537521)
Thanks. It'll just be a 13 hour overnight layover, but it doesn't sound too appealing with no lounge or transit hotel. I will look at other ways to get to Taiwan.

Why TSA over TPE

ua has jfk-sfo-tpe. $1k economy unfortunately
but i think the SFO-TPE load is relatively low, so you probably can get a whole row to yourself to lay flat. Could also get a $1k buy up for J per leg (ymmv). You have to suffer on the domestic leg(likely crowded)

It's also Basic Economy. +$80 for non BE, which gives you flexibility to change at any time (with fare differences). Can't help you with mileage accural though, only 50% i believe
or jfk-lax-tpe via Alaska and SQ. Alaska miles won't accure on ana, but SQ R will at 100%. $1800


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