US citizen trying to travel to Japan (coronavirus-related)
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I'm somewhat surprised that OP's physical presence in the USA is absolutely required. Many courts are now using zoom (or similar) for various proceedings, from the Supreme Court to marriages and it seems possible to send one's lawyer in many circumstances too.
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The Mexico loophole is going away:
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
You could probably consult with North Korea on the best way to sneak into Japan.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
Japan on Tuesday raised its travel alert for 13 countries to its second-highest level, warning against any trips to these areas as new coronavirus infections continue to spread globally.
Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi told a press conference that foreign travelers who have been in the 13 nations -- which include five South and Central American countries, including Mexico, Uruguay and Colombia -- within two weeks of arriving in Japan will be denied entry following the upgraded advisory.
The entry ban will be finalized soon after talks at the National Security Council and a government task force meeting on the virus outbreak.
Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi told a press conference that foreign travelers who have been in the 13 nations -- which include five South and Central American countries, including Mexico, Uruguay and Colombia -- within two weeks of arriving in Japan will be denied entry following the upgraded advisory.
The entry ban will be finalized soon after talks at the National Security Council and a government task force meeting on the virus outbreak.
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The Mexico loophole is going away:
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
You could probably consult with North Korea on the best way to sneak into Japan.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
You could probably consult with North Korea on the best way to sneak into Japan.
It seems to work better than with a fake passport from Latin America (most of the countries are now banned, plus Tokyo Disneyland is closed).
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The Mexico loophole is going away:
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-pandemic.html
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This article implies that Palau has shut its borders to the rest of the world.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21X10Q
It's also not a country you'd want to be stuck in if an outbreak did take place.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21X10Q
As the contagion closes in and outbreaks grow in surrounding nations, President Tommy Remengesau has taken the bold step of shutting off his tourism-dependent nation, and is ready to keep it shut until the rest of the world is over the worst.
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This article implies that Palau has shut its borders to the rest of the world.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21X10Q
It's also not a country you'd want to be stuck in if an outbreak did take place.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21X10Q
It's also not a country you'd want to be stuck in if an outbreak did take place.
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Cambodia is still pretty open, but all the direct flights come from places that won't allow entry from the U.S., so you would have to charter to get to Cambodia, and there are no directs from Cambodia to Japan so would have to charter that leg as well.
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In an effort to help others, I will recount the outcome of my discussions over the last week.
While the Japanese immigration attorney I hired to go to Shinagawa and Narita was unsuccessful in persuading the authorities to grant a reentry permit based on my circumstances, I was finally able to speak to the US Embassy thanks to a personal connection. They were incredibly understanding and kind, took down all of the information and contacted local authorities in the states to verify, and spoke to their direct contacts within the Japanese government.
They indicated:
1.) There is no appetite to consider the welfare of a newborn under extraordinary or special circumstances as if one parent is in Japan, that is sufficient, even if that parent is hospitalized or unconscious. (yes, they specified exactly this)
2.) Foreign nationals are free to leave Japan at any time and are currently encouraged to return home if they can as well as to heed to advice of their own country’s governments.
3.) Exceptions ARE being made by Japan for foreigners being granted entry intro the country for situations including death or hospitalization of an immediate family member due to coronavirus specifically. It’s not clear if other illnesses qualify.
4.) The welfare of non Japanese citizens abroad (as in my case) isn’t a concern of the Japanese government even if they are the non Japanese citizen children of a Japanese resident or Japanese citizen. Such as in the case of adoption of an unrelated dependent who hasn’t been granted Japanese citizenship.
5.) Finally, all of these things may change at a moment’s notice due to coronavirus.
So basically, nothing new here. No empathy based on their rules, which I think are fair rules given the local government can and should set their own policies. The Shinagawa officer literally said they are prioritizing Japanese citizens only and considering their protection from coronavirus. I can’t say what he’s saying is wrong, despite that it puts me in a very difficult situation personally.
For me it’s like the classic riddle of, you’re drowning, so do you save your wife or your child... fortunately death isn’t a likely outcome in this situation.
Thanks to all for your thoughts.
While the Japanese immigration attorney I hired to go to Shinagawa and Narita was unsuccessful in persuading the authorities to grant a reentry permit based on my circumstances, I was finally able to speak to the US Embassy thanks to a personal connection. They were incredibly understanding and kind, took down all of the information and contacted local authorities in the states to verify, and spoke to their direct contacts within the Japanese government.
They indicated:
1.) There is no appetite to consider the welfare of a newborn under extraordinary or special circumstances as if one parent is in Japan, that is sufficient, even if that parent is hospitalized or unconscious. (yes, they specified exactly this)
2.) Foreign nationals are free to leave Japan at any time and are currently encouraged to return home if they can as well as to heed to advice of their own country’s governments.
3.) Exceptions ARE being made by Japan for foreigners being granted entry intro the country for situations including death or hospitalization of an immediate family member due to coronavirus specifically. It’s not clear if other illnesses qualify.
4.) The welfare of non Japanese citizens abroad (as in my case) isn’t a concern of the Japanese government even if they are the non Japanese citizen children of a Japanese resident or Japanese citizen. Such as in the case of adoption of an unrelated dependent who hasn’t been granted Japanese citizenship.
5.) Finally, all of these things may change at a moment’s notice due to coronavirus.
So basically, nothing new here. No empathy based on their rules, which I think are fair rules given the local government can and should set their own policies. The Shinagawa officer literally said they are prioritizing Japanese citizens only and considering their protection from coronavirus. I can’t say what he’s saying is wrong, despite that it puts me in a very difficult situation personally.
For me it’s like the classic riddle of, you’re drowning, so do you save your wife or your child... fortunately death isn’t a likely outcome in this situation.
Thanks to all for your thoughts.
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thank you for sharing your story. I am very sorry for your predicament.
I've been planning to resettle in Jpn at some point (but unsure on the right timing), but this time as a permanent resident. Definitely won't give up my American citizenship.
Anecdotes like this don't help me feel optimistic, but this is good to hear.
This Coronavirus thing has confirmed some good things about Jpn, but has for the most part has reinforced its problems.
Gov't incompetence, haphazard healthcare system, underdeveloped IT culture, gaijinslaves apprentices left hung out to dry, vulnerability of 'haken' workers, stifling peer pressure (likely means you have no choice but to wear masks just to walk outside in oppressive heat this summer).
Jpn obviously has many great things going for itself, but I wonder if it's a good place to be if a crisis happens and you're living there particularly as a non-citizen working on contract.
thank you for sharing your story. I am very sorry for your predicament.
I've been planning to resettle in Jpn at some point (but unsure on the right timing), but this time as a permanent resident. Definitely won't give up my American citizenship.
Anecdotes like this don't help me feel optimistic, but this is good to hear.
This Coronavirus thing has confirmed some good things about Jpn, but has for the most part has reinforced its problems.
Gov't incompetence, haphazard healthcare system, underdeveloped IT culture, gaijin
Jpn obviously has many great things going for itself, but I wonder if it's a good place to be if a crisis happens and you're living there particularly as a non-citizen working on contract.
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It's worked out great for me, especially compared to what I see on US news and what my mother tells me is happening there. But of course, YMMV.
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In an effort to help others, I will recount the outcome of my discussions over the last week.
So basically, nothing new here. No empathy based on their rules, which I think are fair rules given the local government can and should set their own policies. The Shinagawa officer literally said they are prioritizing Japanese citizens only and considering their protection from coronavirus. I can’t say what he’s saying is wrong, despite that it puts me in a very difficult situation personally.
For me it’s like the classic riddle of, you’re drowning, so do you save your wife or your child... fortunately death isn’t a likely outcome in this situation.
Thanks to all for your thoughts.
So basically, nothing new here. No empathy based on their rules, which I think are fair rules given the local government can and should set their own policies. The Shinagawa officer literally said they are prioritizing Japanese citizens only and considering their protection from coronavirus. I can’t say what he’s saying is wrong, despite that it puts me in a very difficult situation personally.
For me it’s like the classic riddle of, you’re drowning, so do you save your wife or your child... fortunately death isn’t a likely outcome in this situation.
Thanks to all for your thoughts.
- Anyone in Japan as temporary visitor is expected to return to their home country,
- Risk of contracting Covid during travel is not a reason for an extension.
- Work is not a reason for an extension.
- Having family in Japan is not a reason for an extension.
- The only reason for an extension is if you can't not get a flight or make travel arrangements to get back to your home country. (Fortunately the bar for this last one is fairly low.)
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IATA keeps a good worldwide database of restrictions here: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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My understanding is that spouses and children can come in *unless* they left Japan after the travel restrictions were announced.
IATA keeps a good worldwide database of restrictions here: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
IATA keeps a good worldwide database of restrictions here: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm