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My learnings from Typhoon 17 from a somewhat impacted Kitakyushu.
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What’s the usual practice with long haul flights into Tokyo? I’m on SYD-NRT scheduled to land at 5pm Saturday.
Is it more likely they’ll cancel the flight, hold us in Sydney, or something else? This is my first trip to Japan, so I appreciate all the advice and experience so far. |
Originally Posted by liamg
(Post 31610455)
What’s the usual practice with long haul flights into Tokyo? I’m on SYD-NRT scheduled to land at 5pm Saturday.
Is it more likely they’ll cancel the flight, hold us in Sydney, or something else? This is my first trip to Japan, so I appreciate all the advice and experience so far. Call your airline and ask if they have made any decision regarding your Saturday flight to NRT. If an airline has not made a decision yet then only option you have at this moment is wait and see. |
Originally Posted by liamg
(Post 31610455)
What’s the usual practice with long haul flights into Tokyo? I’m on SYD-NRT scheduled to land at 5pm Saturday.
Is it more likely they’ll cancel the flight, hold us in Sydney, or something else? This is my first trip to Japan, so I appreciate all the advice and experience so far. Looking at the current track of the Typhoon, my best guess is that JL would fly back to Japan, and land in Kansai Int or Nagoya if NRT is not an option. Either cancel there and send people by trains, or just wait it out in on of those airports. But a bit early to guess, so many things could happen to the trajectory. The Japanese airlines tend to decide quite last minute for typhoons, and not put in mass cancellations in advance. |
Thank you both. Seems JL (who we’re flying) and QF (we booked on points) haven’t made decisions yet. We’ll wait it out, I guess!
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Many years ago, a colleague of mine was on a Qantas flight that tried to land at NRT during a storm - after one aborted landing, it diverted to Sapporo. My colleague spent the next day on planes and trains back to Tokyo via Komatsu. Never did work out quite how he wound up with such a convoluted journey - I suspect he just felt like missing a few meetings.
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Originally Posted by jib71
(Post 31611206)
Many years ago, a colleague of mine was on a Qantas flight that tried to land at NRT during a storm - after one aborted landing, it diverted to Sapporo. My colleague spent the next day on planes and trains back to Tokyo via Komatsu. Never did work out quite how he wound up with such a convoluted journey - I suspect he just felt like missing a few meetings.
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ANA has officially canceled all domestic departures and arrivals into Haneda and Narita on the 12, while JAL is waiting until tomorrow to make their call.
I’ve shifted my international outbound out of Haneda from Sunday to Monday morning, since I don’t expect the trains or the airport to be back up and running for a while on Sunday. |
Scheduled on an award flignt - ANA 173 IAH - NRT landing at 3:20 pm on Saturday. No way to know, but seems like ANA isn't afraid to land in a Typhoon assuming it's safe enough. Does this mean there is a significant possibility that we land in Narita and get stuck in the airport with trains/limo buses down? Considering flying to TPE instead on EVA and waiting it out for a couple of days but we really don't want to give up our ANA first class award. If we were flying economy, I'd re-route in a heartbeat. Any suggestions from the pros out there? We're totally conflicted. Thanks.
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JR East:
Likelihood of suspension of train service at Tokyo and surrounding on 12th and 13th (Saturday and Sunday). This includes Tohoku Shinkansen and Jyoetsu Shinkansen. JR West: Likelihood of suspension of Shinkansen operation between Shin Osaka - Okayama starting morning of 12th (Saturday). JR Tokai: Likelihood of disruption/suspension of Shinkansen operation between Tokyo - Shin Osaka on 12th and 13th (Saturday and Sunday) JAL: Has not suspended entire operation at an airport like ANA. However, check with JAL. 11th, Friday Some flights out of ITM and NGO have already been cancelled. 12th, Saturday Some flights out of NRT, HND, NGO, ITM, and KIX have already been cancelled. 13th, Sunday Some flights out of NRT have been already cancelled. Rugby World Cup: Following Saturday games are cancelled New Zealand vs. Italy (at Toyota Stadium at Aichi near Nagoya) England vs. France (at Yokohama International Stadium at Yokohama) F1 Japan at Suzuka Circuit: Regarding races on Saturday, 12th. Decision will be made on 2 p.m. Friday, 11th Japan time. |
Update
ANA:
30 international flights out of HND and NRT on 12th and 13th are cancelled. JAL: Friday, 11th 2 domestic flights at NRT and 3 international flights at NRT and NGO are cancelled. Saturday, 12th 377 domestic flights and 35 international flights are cancelled. Sunday, 13th 2 domestic flights at NRT cancelled. Express Way: Portion of Tomei Express Way at Shizuoka pref. is closed due to high tide. Baseball: Saturday, 12th Giants vs. Tigers at Tokyo Dome cancelled. Seibu vs. Softbank at MetLife Stadium, likely to be cancelled. |
Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
(Post 31612491)
JR West: Likelihood of suspension of Shinkansen operation between Shin Osaka - Okayama starting morning of 12th (Saturday). |
Originally Posted by Dambus
(Post 31613135)
Any sense of when the cancellations might start? Currently planning to travel Shin-Osaka to Hakata around 9am on Saturday 12th but it sounds like going late Friday might be advisable!
JR West said unless there is some big change in the situation next update will be Friday 10:30 a.m. Japan time. If I were you, I will change Shin Osaka -Hakata to Friday or cancel the trip to Hakata. |
Looking at the 6am projection today (11th) Tokyo would be in the zone with winds speeds above 25 m/s in 24 hours or so. And another 6 to 8 hours to be in the center of the storm.
Sustained wind speeds are down to 50m/s with gusts at 70 m/s |
Flying on points
Hey everyone,
Longtime stalker, first time poster. Wish my first post was under better circumstances. I run a points booking and credit card consulting agency and will look foward providing lots of value here on flyertalk. Unfortunately I am flying rom MEX --> NRT on tomrrow flight ANA 179 (Oct 12 leaving 2am, arriving at 6:45am). I have called ANA all week trying to get rebooked and they have refused to rebook me in reasonable terms because they said my flight is an award booking (transferred 100k amex points $280 copay to fly to Bangkok RT in layflat J with only one layover in Tokyo, hell of a deal right, my bad luck though!!), so they said they can only put me on award space, there is no award space for the next 6 months. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: They could easily route me through LAX and then Taipei with EVA air or maybe even United but just absolutely refused to. Do you guys think tomorrow's flight will be cancelled, it seems like it supposed to land just 3-4 hours after the eye of the storm passes, it seems highly unlikely the flight is going to take off, perhaps only if its delayed a few hours. On the other hand MEX is super congested and if tonights flight takes off, which appears it will, they will have TWO 787's just sitting here. They said they could fly me via EVA air on a star alliance award from Chicago but it would need 15k more points, so I transferred those in from amex but they are SLOWWW to transfer its been nearly 48 hours now still haven't posted. (Not to mention I'd need to fly Chicago on my own money) I transferred them anyways as a form of insurance but not so sure how much of a help it will be. My friend has said once I check in and esp if the flight is cancelled than the flight becomes "IROPS" and they can reroute me through Los Angeles or SF or whatever either on ANA metal or through another star alliance carrier. Are they allowed to tell me to take a hike during irregular operations and not reroute me because its an award? My friend who is more into the points game says once I check-in it "transforms" into a regular ticket. All phone systems are down as in it doesn't even work when you call the Japaneese or US 1-800 number. I really think its lame for ANA to treat award passengers so poorly. If ANA refunds me the 100k points i'll have 115k in the account I can use for another star alliance flight but will have to book a last minute economy ticket and fly RT MEX to SE asia in economy, its a LOOONNNGGG way to go in Y. Any thoughts on what to do here? |
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