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EYrevanchist Apr 30, 19 10:48 pm

[No longer] Urgent Sushi Help!
 
Put in a reservation request for Yoshitake 1 month ago on tableall, heard back today and they couldn't get it.
I need a place that will accept a reservation for mid July and be as good (not any worse and has to have two michelin stars) pronto.

LapLap May 1, 19 12:18 am

Omitting Yoshitake, there are exactly 11 sushi restaurants that fit your criteria.

Can you explain what it is that you need such urgent help for? From my perspective it seems rather straightforward to contact this very manageable number of restaurants and see if any of them has an opening for your dates.

Here’s that link again
https://gm.gnavi.co.jp/restaurant/li...a/sushi/2star/
And
https://gm.gnavi.co.jp/restaurant/li...a/sushi/3star/

Pickles May 1, 19 4:53 am

But it has to have two Michelin stars. Not zero, not one, or not three. Thou should count to two but only on your way to three... And it's urgent!

Gradfly May 1, 19 7:55 am

If you're staying at a hotel, have you tried contacting the concierge for help?

EYrevanchist May 1, 19 8:55 am


Originally Posted by Gradfly (Post 31055803)
If you're staying at a hotel, have you tried contacting the concierge for help?

That's the thing, I'm staying at the Royal Park Canvas Ginza

EverGreen7230 May 1, 19 9:11 am

There are plenty of non-starred places that also do great omakase. Michelin is not the end-all be-all. Have you tried looking at tabelog to see how other places stack up with Yoshitake and other Michelin marketed shops?

Gradfly May 1, 19 10:25 am


Originally Posted by EYrevanchist (Post 31056018)
That's the thing, I'm staying at the Royal Park Canvas Ginza

This doesn't really answer the question. On the curious side, I checked their website and it doesn't explicitly say there is or isn't a concierge service. Have you contacted the hotel directly and ask if they have a concierge?

AlwaysAisle May 1, 19 11:00 am

Not surprising that the Royal Park Canvas Ginza does not have concierge, the Royal Park hotels are kind of hotels which does not have concierge. I think the situation with the OP is that OP insist on Michelin Star rating and OP must have a reservation for a restaurant right now. Around Ginza where OP will be staying there are a lot of nice non-Michelin rated sushi places, and I personally think does not has to be Michelin rated. If I were OP I will simply ask for a recommendation from a front desk at the hotel for dinner that day, don't bother making a reservation right now. But OP insist on Michelin Star rating so will require reservation in advance.

TokyoFoodie May 1, 19 6:16 pm

Try Ryugin in Roppnogi Hills.

Pickles May 1, 19 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by TokyoFoodie (Post 31057886)
Try Ryugin in Roppnogi Hills.

Do you know about the Statue of the Three Lies? Well, this is the Statement of the Two Lies, as Ryugin is not a sushi restaurant (no matter how urgent, Chef Yamamoto isn't changing the menu for the OP), and it's not in Roppongi Hills (or Rappungi Hills, for those FTers of a certain vintage).

5khours May 1, 19 9:06 pm

You might try a private concierge. There's also a place in Roppongi that can provide information and bookings for some restaurants. Can't remember the website, but you can reach them on 03-3405-9222

abmj-jr May 1, 19 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 31058221)
"... Rappungi ....

For the nightlife.

nishimark May 1, 19 11:13 pm


Originally Posted by abmj-jr (Post 31058424)
For the nightlife.

For the long-lasting memories.

Dave510 May 2, 19 2:08 am


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 31058221)
Do you know about the Statue of the Three Lies? Well, this is the Statement of the Two Lies, as Ryugin is not a sushi restaurant (no matter how urgent, Chef Yamamoto isn't changing the menu for the OP), and it's not in Roppongi Hills (or Rappungi Hills, for those FTers of a certain vintage).

Taking into account OP's request (for a 2 star restaurant), this would actually be a statement of three lies; Ryugin is not a 2 star restaurant!

jib71 May 2, 19 4:43 am


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 31058221)
Roppongi Hills (or Rappungi Hills, for those FTers of a certain vintage).

You're out of touch, I'm out of time.
OP clearly referred to Roppnogi Hills, which is the 公式ライバル to Rappungi Hills.

Maestro Ramen May 2, 19 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 31055457)
But it has to have two Michelin stars. Not zero, not one, or not three. Thou should count to two but only on your way to three... And it's urgent!

five...is right out!

lobsterdog May 3, 19 9:07 am


, and it's not in Roppongi Hills
Ryugin isn't even in Roppongi.

TokyoFoodie May 3, 19 2:12 pm

That's ok, why not go for 3 stars or more. The place is the bomb.

Ryugin is in Roppongi. I've been there.

There were in Roppongi until December of last year. Now is Hibiya.

kaka May 5, 19 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by EYrevanchist (Post 31054795)
Put in a reservation request for Yoshitake 1 month ago on tableall, heard back today and they couldn't get it.
I need a place that will accept a reservation for mid July and be as good (not any worse and has to have two michelin stars) pronto.

there is always sushi zanmai.

EYrevanchist May 7, 19 2:47 am

I got a reservation at Harutaka, for which I paid 43k yen on tableall :rolleyes:

Pickles May 7, 19 7:50 am


Originally Posted by EYrevanchist (Post 31074999)
I got a reservation at Harutaka, for which I paid 43k yen on tableall :rolleyes:

For one person? It'd better be really really good!

EYrevanchist May 7, 19 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 31075464)
For one person? It'd better be really really good!

Indeed, and I have a feeling it will be!

Pickles May 7, 19 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by EYrevanchist (Post 31075964)
Indeed, and I have a feeling it will be!

I have had sushi dinners that cost that much, but they were at the intersection of (a) someone else paying and (b) copious amounts of alcohol involved.

5khours May 7, 19 1:44 pm

I totally don't get this reverential elevation of sushi into some sort of fashion worship. Bloody Americans want to assign a number and rank to everything. You go to a sushiya to drink and shoot the breeze and eat some fish. The stuff is not even cooked for crissakes. The only reason to pay up is to impress business clients. I remember when foreigners used to turn up their noses at the idea of eating raw fish. Now they're all bowing at the hinoki communion rail.

Pickles May 7, 19 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 31076728)
Now they're all bowing at the hinoki communion rail.

But it's the hinoki communion third rail! You can't touch that!

Maestro Ramen May 8, 19 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 31076728)
I totally don't get this reverential elevation of sushi into some sort of fashion worship. Bloody Americans want to assign a number and rank to everything. You go to a sushiya to drink and shoot the breeze and eat some fish. The stuff is not even cooked for crissakes. The only reason to pay up is to impress business clients. I remember when foreigners used to turn up their noses at the idea of eating raw fish. Now they're all bowing at the hinoki communion rail.

Price of sushi in Tokyo is driven by the Japanese customers, not by "bloody americans".

Japanese are very good at assigning a number and a rank to everything.

There are indeed things that people mostly pay up for to impress. Top grade Sushi is not one of them.

Anyone up for a Dom Perignon on crushed ice?

BuildingMyBento May 14, 19 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 31076728)
I totally don't get this reverential elevation of sushi into some sort of fashion worship. Bloody Americans want to assign a number and rank to everything. You go to a sushiya to drink and shoot the breeze and eat some fish. The stuff is not even cooked for crissakes. The only reason to pay up is to impress business clients. I remember when foreigners used to turn up their noses at the idea of eating raw fish. Now they're all bowing at the hinoki communion rail.

Breaking news: skytrax enters the sushiya market

YVRYEGYVR May 19, 19 5:12 pm

I rarely hear people talk about Matsue at Ebisu station.
Hands down best sushi experience and price for quality. The variety and quality of fish on the omakase menu is staggering.

For cheap options a la carte, I found itamae sushi really reasonable, and a good primer to experience different tuna

02BNFR May 20, 19 1:21 pm

Watch "Jiro Dreams of Sushi"

EYrevanchist May 23, 19 1:09 am

Experiences at Harutaka, and should I cancel for Sawada?
 
I was wondering whether any FT`ers have had experience with dining at Harutaka.
And whether it is worth cancelling for Sawada?

Pickles May 24, 19 7:04 am


Originally Posted by EYrevanchist (Post 31129887)
I was wondering whether any FT`ers have had experience with dining at Harutaka.
And whether it is worth cancelling for Sawada?

Is Sawada less than JPY 43,000? Given your deep, respectful, and enduring knowledge of the Tokyo sushi scene, I'd use price as my main discriminant, with the objective being the cheaper the better.


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