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Old Jan 22, 19, 12:34 pm
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I do have a soft spot for St Marc Choco Cro. Something about choco cro being warm and small-ish makes it a nice treat.
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Old Jan 22, 19, 6:26 pm
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is there any discernible difference between the gyoza at Hidakaya and the frozen ones from a company such as Ajinomoto that are prepared at home?
I can't make the frozen Ajinomoto comparison since I don't eat it.
But Hidakaya and Oushou are way better than most cooked gyozas you buy at supermarkets and depachikas.
The skin texture is perfect at Hidakaya and Oushou. The filling is very tasty and soft with more veggies than meat which is how I personally like. There're too many gyozas with fillings that are dry or bland. You also can't beat their prices.
I do think Gyoza no Oushou is a little better, but that might just be in my head.
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Old Jan 23, 19, 1:18 am
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Thanks, evergrn. A photo isn’t always worth a thousand words, so thanks for the review. LapGirl is nuts about gyoza so I’ll keep both those options open as a place for a quick snack for her (she has little interest in burgers).
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Old Jan 23, 19, 9:02 pm
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There's a bunch of Ootoya in/around nishi-shinjuku and yoyogi... I used to go to the one in a two-story circular building, about 10 years ago and I think they moved out of that building awhile ago. Those fried oysters were a new thing for me back then.

I've never been to Hageten and it looks a bit nicer than Tenya. Tenya is really no frills with a ticket machine and self-service water and cleanup station. Seems they're trying to get ahead of the labor shortage.
i agree. not fast food but i would call it a cheap restaurant. they stopped offering unlimited rice topup here in hong kong - i bet some people brought Tupperware for taking rice out.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 12:45 am
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i agree. not fast food but i would call it a cheap restaurant. they stopped offering unlimited rice topup here in hong kong - i bet some people brought Tupperware for taking rice out.
Itís nearly twice the price in Hong Kong, isnít it? The mackerel set is 98HKD (currently 1,370yen). In Japan it is 800yen.

Coco Ichibanya has just opened in London. With basic (non meal set) menu items starting at £10 (1,430yen) and most of the offerings priced at around £13 (1,900yen), thatís going to affect peopleís perceptions of Cocoís as belonging in the fast food category.
My daughter is interested in going, but Iíll hold off and let her try Cocoís in Tokyo.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 2:26 am
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Itís nearly twice the price in Hong Kong, isnít it? The mackerel set is 98HKD (currently 1,370yen). In Japan it is 800yen.

Coco Ichibanya has just opened in London. With basic (non meal set) menu items starting at £10 (1,430yen) and most of the offerings priced at around £13 (1,900yen), thatís going to affect peopleís perceptions of Cocoís as belonging in the fast food category.
My daughter is interested in going, but Iíll hold off and let her try Cocoís in Tokyo.
Today I ordered Chicken three ways (katsu, stewed, and fried) substituted beef sauce for pork as you get good chunks of beef (free choice), added vegetables, added cheese, bumped it up to 400g rice and level 6 spiciness. Ordered a side of rakyo as well. All in 2010 yen or £14. If you only get a basic menu item for £13, it starts to feel like a scam. Would likely skip CoCo in London and head to a pie & mash shop anyway.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 2:40 am
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I have never heard of or saw Hageten while I was in Tokyo, weird! I guess I could give it a try haha.

We have Coco Ichibanya in the US and I went to the Torrance one (near LA) a couple of times. If I remember correctly the prices were higher than Japan for sure, but not quite the twice as expensive (well, until you add the tips and what not?).

There's also Yayoi-ken in the Bay Area that I tend to go whenver I crave Japanese family style food. They opened quite a few branches since the first branch in Palo Alto (at least for the Bay Area). I think the prices are also higher, but hey, they are actually one of the few ones that do Japanese style billing (you pay the price + tax, but no tips!). I never checke out Yayoi-ken in Japan though. There's just too many to choose from LOL.

There are just too many B-class / C-class gourmet restaurants / fast food chains in Japan for everyday dining.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 3:32 am
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Today I ordered Chicken three ways (katsu, stewed, and fried) substituted beef sauce for pork as you get good chunks of beef (free choice), added vegetables, added cheese, bumped it up to 400g rice and level 6 spiciness. Ordered a side of rakyo as well. All in 2010 yen or £14. If you only get a basic menu item for £13, it starts to feel like a scam. Would likely skip CoCo in London and head to a pie & mash shop anyway.
I dread to think what that would set you back in London. I guess Coco’s are relying on a central location on the tourist circuit to snare customers. Then again, dining out is expensive here and the price is in line with similar establishments (eg Tombo in South Kensington & Soho). But it is a little hard to justify a visit when a popular and prolific British chain (Wasabi) offers chicken katsu curry and rice for £6.29.
Hard to beat pie and mash for volume and value, I agree. It’s a dwindling tradition though.

Thank goodness for the amazing lunch menu deals, available in Tokyo and other cities in Japan. Thanks to lunch deals, my budget doesn’t limit me to the kind of restaurants showcased in this thread. I’m pleased to see a list of them, and to learn other people’s opinions, but they are solely places to go to when I have to eat at an unconventional time.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 6:02 am
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It’s nearly twice the price in Hong Kong, isn’t it? The mackerel set is 98HKD (currently 1,370yen). In Japan it is 800yen.

Coco Ichibanya has just opened in London. With basic (non meal set) menu items starting at £10 (1,430yen) and most of the offerings priced at around £13 (1,900yen), that’s going to affect people’s perceptions of Coco’s as belonging in the fast food category.
My daughter is interested in going, but I’ll hold off and let her try Coco’s in Tokyo.
yes. but 800 yen equiv in HK (60HKD) you're looking at half a notch up the basic fastfood places (or 1 dish at a chachanteng style place for dinner), esp rent in HK is quite a bit higher than most parts of Japan.
now for things in london, yes, I've only had japanese food at Misato back in student days (Hare and Tortoise and Wagamama is too fake to call Japanese, obviously). I've had ramen and some bento stuff in the City because of my mates since but that's a totally different price point.

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I dread to think what that would set you back in London. I guess Coco’s are relying on a central location on the tourist circuit to snare customers. Then again, dining out is expensive here and the price is in line with similar establishments (eg Tombo in South Kensington & Soho). But it is a little hard to justify a visit when a popular and prolific British chain (Wasabi) offers chicken katsu curry and rice for £6.29.
Hard to beat pie and mash for volume and value, I agree. It’s a dwindling tradition though.
I've just had a look at Tombo - wow, I'm surprised it's at where it is now (it's on the way of my daily commute for 3 years). Not surprised in this time and day but I wouldn't have expected there's a Japanese shop non-Wasabi there 10 years back.
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How about Pepper Lunch? I think it's good for "fast food" but it's not as cheap as normal fast food.
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Old Jan 24, 19, 7:09 pm
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How about Pepper Lunch? I think it's good for "fast food" but it's not as cheap as normal fast food.
talking about pepper lunch, ikinari steak! fast food, not CHEAP nominal, but cheap steak if you start ordering japanese beef
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Old Jan 25, 19, 12:38 am
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talking about pepper lunch, ikinari steak! fast food, not CHEAP nominal, but cheap steak if you start ordering japanese beef
Isnít this the chain famous for no seats?

If so, it represents the antithesis of the family restaurant concept. Perhaps that is the appeal.

The real deal breaker for me with Ikinari Steak and Pepper Lunch is the paucity of vegetables. Iím content with a plateful of finely sliced cabbage, but I donít feel the same way about de-cobbed sweetcorn.
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I think most branches of Ikinari Steak (which is owned by the parent company of Pepper Lunch) have seats nowadays, although a few are still standing only.
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Old Jan 25, 19, 11:44 pm
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Isnít this the chain famous for no seats?

If so, it represents the antithesis of the family restaurant concept. Perhaps that is the appeal.

The real deal breaker for me with Ikinari Steak and Pepper Lunch is the paucity of vegetables. Iím content with a plateful of finely sliced cabbage, but I donít feel the same way about de-cobbed sweetcorn.
Green salad itís a paid add-on 😂😂
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Old Jan 25, 19, 11:56 pm
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Yoshinoya, Coco Ichibanya, Ippudo, Tenya, Pepper Lunch, etc., they're found in most big (especially Asian) cities in varying quality, and usually up-scaled as well.

I'd check out chains with a more local bent like Matsuya or C&C curry, or even 'chinese' Hidakaya. Anyone tried Katsuya tonkatsu?
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