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nar0 Dec 5, 2023 1:27 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 35738253)
No, neither Google Maps nor Apple Maps nor Waze is nearly as good as the built-in navs, for a couple of reasons.

1) Lane guidance is absent in non-Japanese navs. Sometimes Waze will have some guidance, but it's a little flimsy.
2) Phone number search is mostly absent in non-Japanese navs (and works quite well in the OEM ones)
3) Critically, in-tunnel guidance is very flawed in non-OEM navs (since, obviously, no GPS connectivity). This may or may not matter for your use case; half of Tokyo is underground so it's INDISPENSABLE there unless you're familiar with the route, because the Marunouchi tunnel, for example, is about 17km long, and only has 7 exits, so if you miss yours (and remember, no nav underground, so you have NO IDEA if you're missing your exit or not), then you'll instantly regret not using the onboard one.
4) Onboard navs have a tendency to keep you to larger roads, and have colour coding (usually purple) for roads you as a foreigner should not attempt to navigate (think 4m wide road that has buses going in both directions, interpersed with electric poles and bicycles). Google will happily navigate you along the shortest route. I direct you to this thread; 'nuff said. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip...ery-badly.html

The OEM nav is usually clunky to use, far worse than Google Maps or the others, but the benefit is that the driving directions tend to be very Japan-focussed, which means TREMENDOUS amounts of hand-holding (like warning you that a curve is coming up ahead), but this may be valuable if the road is unfamiliar, because Japanese roads don't really follow any specific rules (i.e. highway exits are sometimes on the left, and sometimes on the right, so you absolutely cannot assume that it will be one or the other); and sometimes an exit might have multiple forks, some of which go into a parking lot, some go into an exit, and some just go nowhere. Also, some may be ETC-only (toll card), which is something the onboard nav will warn you about, and Google Maps won't.

One possible option if you want to try something different is Navitime. I don't know how their free mode works, they've kind of revamped the pay model so it's annoying now, but it was a good alternative that was still extremely Japan-oriented and yet ran on phones.

Yahoo Car Navigation is the best free nav for your phone in Japan, has pretty much all the OEM nav features, including somehow having the ability to know your location in tunnels and underground, but is completely free for all standard nav features (I think they charge for the more advanced Waze-like features). Only downside is it's Japanese only, there is no English at all.

bocastephen Dec 5, 2023 2:58 am


Originally Posted by nar0 (Post 35796615)
Yahoo Car Navigation is the best free nav for your phone in Japan, has pretty much all the OEM nav features, including somehow having the ability to know your location in tunnels and underground, but is completely free for all standard nav features (I think they charge for the more advanced Waze-like features). Only downside is it's Japanese only, there is no English at all.

We found the in car nav to be missing a few destinations we were trying to find, or it had the wrong location, for example it only had a different location for Toji Temple so we ended up using Google maps to find the correct location. Frustrating but no less so than the snooty English voice telling us to turn at …… only to be replaced by the Japanese voice who would say the street name as fast as possible.

lrdpenn Dec 5, 2023 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by Ashe Black (Post 35783294)
Just rented a car from sky rent a car in Kumamoto, I had to create a Japanese account using a Japanese address and number, I used my proxy forwarding service address for this, and my Chinese name for the kanji name, though it doesn't match my English name on my documents. Will this cause any issues or are only the CC, passport, and IDP important?

Two ideas that might help if you're worried, although sorry that neither answers your question:
1. Is there a reason you have to go with that agency? Others don't have this issue with online reservations, e.g. Toyota which I've also had no issues in the past from their office just west of Kumamoto Station.
2. As you prob know, sometimes calling in Japan is easier or unavoidable. I use my credit card concierge service for this - they have successfully made car reservations in Japan for me in areas I struggled to make a reservation online. If you have access to this service perhaps you can ask them to call in a reservation for you.

valve bouncer Dec 6, 2023 8:02 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 35796425)
Just a FYI for those renting a Prius in Japan, there are more flavors and sizes of Prius in Japan than North America, and the entry level option is small - and I mean really really small. We were barely able to squeeze in two larger carry on rollers plus one backpack and while I’m not that tall by any stretch, I had to basically squat to get in and out of the car.

So the lower priced Prius that you might see from Toyota Rent A Car may look like a good deal, be prepared for the size.

Sounds like you might have got a Toyota Aqua (Prius C outside Japan). They are indeed tiny in the back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Aqua

bocastephen Dec 6, 2023 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by valve bouncer (Post 35800106)
Sounds like you might have got a Toyota Aqua (Prius C outside Japan). They are indeed tiny in the back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Aqua

Actually I don’t think it was an Aqua, which I was expecting because it was the first car we drove in Japan many years ago. The car we received had a very futuristic look. Here are a couple photos:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...58830ec9f.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6ed97234c.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...79b45ff3c.jpeg

YariGuy Dec 6, 2023 5:42 pm

It has no handles for the back door?

freecia Dec 6, 2023 6:33 pm

Google Image Search says it is a Prius Z but could be a G or U?
https://toyota.jp/ucar/catalog/brand...2301/10147104/


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 35801530)
It has no handles for the back door?

The handles are near where the side back window/rear door quarter would be. It has a plastic triangle panel instead? I've seen some US crossover (mini SUV x station wagon hatchback amalgam) with this design, too.
For those not residing in a place with frequent car break-ins, the rear quarter is also one of the more commonly broken car windows and cost more than many other windows to fix. Tesla doesn't alarm the quarter windows. For Teslas in my area - it is mostly theft of the car contents and not the car.

jib71 Dec 6, 2023 6:53 pm

I think that photo is a different Prius model - not the Aqua. The door handles are in the rear window triangle.
[EDIT: freecia beat me to it.]

bocastephen Dec 6, 2023 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 35801530)
It has no handles for the back door?

In the second photo, you can see the pocket in the back corner of the window, the latch is hidden in there. I have a Tesla at home, so hunting for hidden door handles and their quirky usage is easy for us. The wheels were large, but the car sits very low, so anyone taller than about 5'8" is going to need to squat down to get in and out, or risk hitting their head.

Also the gas mileage wasn't the best, even considering how much time the "EV" light was on while cruising in town.

uanj Dec 6, 2023 11:40 pm

Question for the group: last two rentals from Avis in Japan ended up with cars that don't connect to Apple CarPlay. Is this the norm now? The Pioneer navi system is not great for English input.

Pseudo Nim Dec 6, 2023 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 35801337)
Actually I don’t think it was an Aqua, which I was expecting because it was the first car we drove in Japan many years ago. The car we received had a very futuristic look. Here are a couple photos:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...58830ec9f.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6ed97234c.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...79b45ff3c.jpeg

Woah that’s the newest Prius!! How was it? Small but very cool.

Amil Dec 7, 2023 12:27 am


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 35802085)
Question for the group: last two rentals from Avis in Japan ended up with cars that don't connect to Apple CarPlay. Is this the norm now? The Pioneer navi system is not great for English input.

yeah I just had a subaru rental from Nippon and was beyond disappointed with the Pioneer Navi.

bocastephen Dec 7, 2023 9:24 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 35802088)
Woah that’s the newest Prius!! How was it? Small but very cool.

Once we squished ourselves into the car, it drove really well. Smooth and was aggressive staying on EV mode when the battery had juice, but still we went through 22 liters in 3 days KIX Kyoto Nara Kyoto and lots of local driving inside of Kyoto. I’ll need to look at the receipt when I unpack to see how many miles we actually drove to figure out how efficient it really was.

In the end it was a toss up on whether or not we should have taken transit vs driving, there are arguments for both. We paid a decent premium for the car when accounting for tolls, parking and gas, but we also avoided lengthy waits for overstuffed, hot uncomfortable buses, subways and possibly fewer places to see given the public transit schedules and sheer volume of people we saw waiting.

I still don’t regret renting, there is value in controlling our schedule and frankly driving in Japan is paradise compared to Southern California, so I can actually enjoy driving around a little vs feeling like I’m in a war zone.

Outbound24 Dec 7, 2023 12:13 pm


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 35802085)
Question for the group: last two rentals from Avis in Japan ended up with cars that don't connect to Apple CarPlay. Is this the norm now? The Pioneer navi system is not great for English input.


Originally Posted by Amil (Post 35802120)
yeah I just had a subaru rental from Nippon and was beyond disappointed with the Pioneer Navi.

That's disappointing to hear, I was hoping most rentals had Apple CarPlay as it's really user friendly for me personally, I didn't want have to use my phone in a cradle for navigation with Google Maps, music library and calls/texts etc

bocastephen Dec 7, 2023 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by Outbound24 (Post 35803506)
That's disappointing to hear, I was hoping most rentals had Apple CarPlay as it's really user friendly for me personally, I didn't want have to use my phone in a cradle for navigation with Google Maps, music library and calls/texts etc

Our Toyota rental supported car play and the rental agent even set it up for us


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