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MSYtoJFKagain Jul 18, 2023 6:33 am

That's mostly a Tiktok fable.

LapLap Jul 18, 2023 6:34 am


Originally Posted by GodAtum (Post 35423209)
I've heard a lot of small restaurants have higher prices on their English menus, is that true?

I have never ever seen an example of this.

Do you have one?

MSYtoJFKagain Jul 18, 2023 6:35 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35423330)
I have never ever seen an example of this.

Do you have one?

There's a few Tiktoks claiming this that have been making the rounds lately.

LapLap Jul 18, 2023 6:59 am


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 35423333)
There's a few Tiktoks claiming this that have been making the rounds lately.

I do know of restaurants that have different prices for women than men.

Here’s an example: https://livejapan.com/en/in-tokyo/in...icle-a0005072/

MSYtoJFKagain Jul 18, 2023 7:15 am

That makes sense to me and they're being up front about it.

I think these other claims are less credible. I'd bet it was one or two restaurants and social media did its thing.

AlwaysAisle Jul 18, 2023 8:54 am


Originally Posted by GodAtum (Post 35423209)
I've heard a lot of small restaurants have higher prices on their English menus, is that true?

Also possible that it can be "lost in translation" moment. The person ordered Dish A which is 1200 yen, but the server thought the person ordered Dish B which is 1500 yen. Dish B was served and billed 1500 yen, The person thought cheated.

One example I can think of is sushi restaurants. For set sushi orders, it is common that there are a few different set sushi dishes.

並 (nami): regular
上 (jyou):deluxe
特上 (toku-jyou): superior

or

梅 (ume): regular
竹 (take): deluxe
松 (matsu): superior

I think it is possible that a person ordered regular sushi, served deluxe sushi, and charged for deluxe sushi. The server thought the person ordered deluxe, but the person thinks ordered regular but was charged for deluxe. GodAtum can you show us where you saw this information about the English menu having a higher price than the Japanese menu? You can search the Japan forum here and there has been no report of such incidents. We may be able to figure out what was going on if we look at the source of the information. Now I am a little curious about this.

P.S.
I have seen the situation where some items are not listed on English menu. Most common is Today's Special. Japanese menu has standard menu and Today's Special, but English menu only has items from standard menu and no mention of Today's Special.

estnet Jul 18, 2023 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35423384)
I do know of restaurants that have different prices for women than men.

Here’s an example: https://livejapan.com/en/in-tokyo/in...icle-a0005072/

That's a cool idea since women (and children) do tend to each less than men - it's the first time I've seen a restaurant acknowledge this. I tried to look it up, but what I see know are all prix fixe menus - do you know if they still do the all you can eat? (will be in Tokyo in Nov and might want to try it)

AlwaysAisle Jul 18, 2023 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by estnet (Post 35424753)
That's a cool idea since women (and children) do tend to each less than men - it's the first time I've seen a restaurant acknowledge this. I tried to look it up, but what I see know are all prix fixe menus - do you know if they still do the all you can eat? (will be in Tokyo in Nov and might want to try it)

Their website indicates that they are still doing all you can eat.

All You Can Eat at Tsukiji Tama Sushi (if the English site does not appear, click the "English" icon on the center top of the page.)

estnet Jul 18, 2023 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 35424804)
Their website indicates that they are still doing all you can eat.

All You Can Eat at Tsukiji Tama Sushi (if the English site does not appear, click the "English" icon on the center top of the page.)

Thank you - don't know why I couldn't find it myself but I couldn't.

lsquare Jul 22, 2023 5:34 am


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 35424804)
Their website indicates that they are still doing all you can eat.

All You Can Eat at Tsukiji Tama Sushi (if the English site does not appear, click the "English" icon on the center top of the page.)

I'm glad I discovered this thread. Is Tsukiji Tama Sushi any good? Good value for the money?

LapLap Jul 22, 2023 5:50 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 35434626)
I'm glad I discovered this thread. Is Tsukiji Tama Sushi any good? Good value for the money?

I’m planning on going to one of the branches. My kid adores temakizushi and it is supposed to have originated with this restaurant chain.
Price seems very reasonable to me.

lsquare Jul 22, 2023 7:18 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35434648)
I’m planning on going to one of the branches. My kid adores temakizushi and it is supposed to have originated with this restaurant chain.
Price seems very reasonable to me.

I don't have any experience with all-you-can-eat sushi in Tokyo, but is ¥6,028 a good price? There is an exclusion. The sushi pictures do look good though!

LapLap Jul 22, 2023 8:20 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 35434773)
I don't have any experience with all-you-can-eat sushi in Tokyo, but is ¥6,028 a good price? There is an exclusion. The sushi pictures do look good though!

There are at least 30 kinds of sushi to choose from and you can also select two pieces of the primo ingredients - sea urchin and salmon roe. These are limited rather than excluded.

If you are looking to try as wide a variety as possible and then repeat on the kinds you like best, then yes, it’s a very fair price. Assuming you have about 40 pieces that’s about 150円 a piece.

There are cheaper all you can eat options and, if you aren’t a big eater and don’t expect to consume more than 40 pieces, then you might consider there’s better value at a kaitenzushi place (where each piece is typically 60円to 80円 but need to be bought in pairs making it more challenging for a lone diner to experience a wide variety.)

To generalise, for a male diner expecting to eat 40 or so pieces, Tsukiji Tama Sushi is about 40% more than the very cheapest kaitenzushi.
It will be up to you to decide if it’s worth the extra.

freecia Jul 22, 2023 10:27 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35434884)
There are cheaper all you can eat options and, if you aren’t a big eater and don’t expect to consume more than 40 pieces, then you might consider there’s better value at a kaitenzushi place (where each piece is typically 60円to 80円 but need to be bought in pairs making it more challenging for a lone diner to experience a wide variety.)

To generalise, for a male diner expecting to eat 40 or so pieces, Tsukiji Tama Sushi is about 40% more than the very cheapest kaitenzushi.
It will be up to you to decide if it’s worth the extra.

I just looked the Tachikawa location's reviews and saw the wait time to be seated can be quite long. It is also time unlimited all you can eat, 20 pieces per order, so people will probably linger. So the time trade off is something to consider for a tourist, too.

The corporation has 5 brands and the ones with the blue icon are AYCE https://www.tamasushi.co.jp/brand/ . If you just want to try their temakizushi then one of non-AYCE locations might be faster and come out a bit less expensive depending on quantity.

bmwe92fan Jul 22, 2023 11:50 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35423330)
I have never ever seen an example of this.

Do you have one?

The only thing I can think of is that due to some of the unique "charges" that are understood ("table charge" - "Sitting fee") could have been built in to the prices on the English menu as explaining them to a foreigner might be difficult / impossible. Also -- they could just be out of date...

Interesting note about this custom -- it is not so easy to get a "liquor license" in Japan -- but a "restaurant license" is much easier. A "liquor license" allows you to only serve alcohol to someone, while a "restaurant license" will allow you to serve liquor if and only if you also serve them food. So many places add this fee and then serve you that appetizer to be in compliance with the law...

Now that I think of it -- I've also seen crazy fees like "Golden Week Surcharge" -- but it's been a while....


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