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LCUF Oct 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Currency Exchange Experience
 
Hi all.

Not sure if anyone still cares about information regarding currency exchange, but during my most recent trip to Japan, I exchanged USD for Yen through three different methods:

1) The currency exchange booth near my work place, which I exchanged for a few hundred dollars worth of USD, had the worst rate after service fee. I did not bother trying to order Yen through my bank (Bank of America), as the rate they quoted to me was terrible and would take time.
2) The currency exchange booth at Haneda Airport, operated by Mizuho Bank. The exchange rate is the market rate minus 3 Yen if you are buying Yen , so at the exchange rate at the time, it's about 1.5% service fee, give or take, so it was all right.
3) The debit card from Simple (online bank), using Japan Post ATM. The exchange rate is the market rate, but VISA takes 1% exchange fee; however, it is still the best rate during my trip. It does have the daily limit of $500 USD, so I could only withdraw about 50,000 Yen.

I know some debit cards such as the ones from Capital One 360 checking accounts don't even have VISA exchange fee, but I did not have accounts with them so I can't say for sure.

I did not try the local currency exchange booths in Japan (such as Daikokuya) but I will give it a try next time. Hope this helps.

nacho Oct 13, 2015 3:17 am

Thanks for sharing! We are going to Japan next week and I think we'll be using our Visa debit to draw cash.

LCUF Oct 13, 2015 7:13 am


Originally Posted by nacho (Post 25556643)
Thanks for sharing! We are going to Japan next week and I think we'll be using our Visa debit to draw cash.

No problem! There are many little things you don't know until you try :P

You should check with the bank/issuer of your Visa debit card though just to make sure they don't charge foreign transaction fees or any other fees! Simple doesn't charge any fee on their side, but Visa does and I didn't find out until after I withdraw cash (I sort of expected it to happen, but you never know).

Reference for Japan Post ATMs: http://www.jp-bank.japanpost.jp/en/i...ias_index.html

Enjoy your trip!

nacho Oct 15, 2015 1:14 am


Originally Posted by LC USC (Post 25557296)
No problem! There are many little things you don't know until you try :P

You should check with the bank/issuer of your Visa debit card though just to make sure they don't charge foreign transaction fees or any other fees! Simple doesn't charge any fee on their side, but Visa does and I didn't find out until after I withdraw cash (I sort of expected it to happen, but you never know).

Reference for Japan Post ATMs: http://www.jp-bank.japanpost.jp/en/i...ias_index.html

Enjoy your trip!

Thanks! I have 1 card that doesn't charge ATM fee on their side plus no forex.

What did visa charge you? 1.5% exchange fee?

ksandness Oct 15, 2015 7:58 pm

The other thing to note is that the daily withdrawal limit is for a day defined as midnight to midnight in your home time zone.

Midnight in Minneapolis, where my bank is based, is 2:00PM in Japan in the summer and 3:00PM in the winter, so while I'm in Japan, I can't make one large withdrawal in the morning Japan time and another in the evening Japan time. I have to wait till the next afternoon.

LCUF Oct 15, 2015 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by nacho (Post 25567368)
Thanks! I have 1 card that doesn't charge ATM fee on their side plus no forex.

What did visa charge you? 1.5% exchange fee?

It was 1%. For example, one time I withdrew 50,000 yen for 418.xx USD and Visa took charged 4.18 USD.

And as ksandness said, beware the timezones. Although I just withdrew around the same time daily so I know 24 hours or so have passed between withdraws.

pudgym29 Nov 13, 2015 3:35 am

You said the secret word.
 
LC USC, give Daikokuya the exchange shot next time.
I've been able to not have to exchange funds @ my arrival airport in Tokyo the last two times. The six Daikokuya shops near where you may stay are
  • In Shinjuku, 2-8-5 Yoyogi Shibuya-ku
  • In Shinbashi, 2-16-1 Shinbashi Minato-ku New Shinbashi building 1F room 114.
  • In Shibuya, 23-11 Udagawacho Shibuya-ku RI Em building 2F
  • Near Tokyo station, 1-6-19 Yaesu Chuo-ku second Bill Oguro 1F
  • In Ueno, 4-2-2 Ueno Taito-ku
  • and in central Yokohama, 1-2-3 Minamisaiwai Nishi-ku Yokohama-shi Kanagawa-ken Kioritz building 2F
I perceive Daikokuya has the best exchange rate of them all.
Here's a Japanese-language page which might give the exchange rate. But you can definitely look up shop locations there.

LCUF Nov 15, 2015 12:27 am


Originally Posted by pudgym29 (Post 25706723)
LC USC, give Daikokuya the exchange shot next time.
I've been able to not have to exchange funds @ my arrival airport in Tokyo the last two times.

Hey pudgym29. I know about Daikokuya but never tried them before. I will try it along with ATM withdraw next time and report back =)

hbtan Nov 16, 2015 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by pudgym29 (Post 25706723)
LC USC, give Daikokuya the exchange shot next time.
I've been able to not have to exchange funds @ my arrival airport in Tokyo the last two times. The six Daikokuya shops near where you may stay are
  • In Shinjuku, 2-8-5 Yoyogi Shibuya-ku
  • In Shinbashi, 2-16-1 Shinbashi Minato-ku New Shinbashi building 1F room 114.
  • In Shibuya, 23-11 Udagawacho Shibuya-ku RI Em building 2F
  • Near Tokyo station, 1-6-19 Yaesu Chuo-ku second Bill Oguro 1F
  • In Ueno, 4-2-2 Ueno Taito-ku
  • and in central Yokohama, 1-2-3 Minamisaiwai Nishi-ku Yokohama-shi Kanagawa-ken Kioritz building 2F
I perceive Daikokuya has the best exchange rate of them all.
Here's a Japanese-language page which might give the exchange rate. But you can definitely look up shop locations there.

Heading to Japan next week, do you know if Daikokuya charges a service fee? The exchange rate on their website is great!

LCUF Nov 16, 2015 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by hbtan (Post 25725235)
Heading to Japan next week, do you know if Daikokuya charges a service fee? The exchange rate on their website is great!

The rates on their website only applies to online orders, for which they charge 500 yen for delivery fee, no service fee involved; however, typically you have to pay fee when transfer money at the ATM so that's extra. I don't know about at shops. I couldn't find anything about the service fee on their website.

The rates at their shops can differ from the online ones, as big red letter says "下記レートは通信販売限定のレートとなります。店頭での両替レートとは異なりますので、直接各店舗までお 問い合わせください。", use it as a reference but not as an absolute.

BTW, since you are from SFO, you are traveling there over the Thanksgiving holidays? Because me too! LOL

hbtan Nov 17, 2015 12:18 am


Originally Posted by LC USC (Post 25725550)
The rates on their website only applies to online orders, for which they charge 500 yen for delivery fee, no service fee involved; however, typically you have to pay fee when transfer money at the ATM so that's extra. I don't know about at shops. I couldn't find anything about the service fee on their website.

The rates at their shops can differ from the online ones, as big red letter says "下記レートは通信販売限定のレートとなります。店頭での両替レートとは異なりますので、直接各店舗までお 問い合わせください。", use it as a reference but not as an absolute.

BTW, since you are from SFO, you are traveling there over the Thanksgiving holidays? Because me too! LOL

Wow small world, what dates are you flying?

Guess we'll transfer some money at HND and then be on the lookout for Daikokuya during our trip.

LCUF Nov 19, 2015 12:00 am


Originally Posted by hbtan (Post 25725783)
Wow small world, what dates are you flying?

Guess we'll transfer some money at HND and then be on the lookout for Daikokuya during our trip.

Flying out of SFO right before the holidays and back after the holidays. The Daikokuya website lists the locations of the shops so you should be able to find one easily, or just use Google Maps and search the Tokyo area.

LCUF Nov 26, 2015 8:45 pm

Now I am here in Tokyo, let me report the rates I am getting again.

Japan Post Bank: 122.48 (not including 1% VISA fee)
Daikokuya: 120.09 at shop / 120.74

So unless I need a large amount of cash in a day (more than 50,000 yen), I will probably stick to my ATM card.

hbtan Nov 27, 2015 2:28 am

We've been using Daikokuya for the last few days - and have been getting rates at 1-2% off of the true exchange rate, not as good as your Simple card, but since we don't get anything close to reasonable with the debit cards we have we've been happy to stick to Daikokuya. Thanks for the tip!


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