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Old Dec 5, 2013, 12:38 am
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Consumption Tax Exemption for Tourists to be improved in 2014

Government has reportedly decided to improve tax exemption program for tourists. Consumption tax rate is going to be 8% next April up from current 5%. So, putting this in mind can save you some yens.

Items: Sake, cosmetics and snacks are added to currently eligible items =electronic goods.
Eligible prices: Over 10,000 yen to over 5,000 yen
Participating shops: 10,000 from current 4,000

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http://sankei.jp.msn.com/politics/ne...8500010-n1.htm
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by O Sora
Government has reportedly decided to improve tax exemption program for tourists. Consumption tax rate is going to be 8% next April up from current 5%. So, putting this in mind can save you some yens.

Items: Sake, cosmetics and snacks are added to currently eligible items =electronic goods.
Eligible prices: Over 10,000 yen to over 5,000 yen
Participating shops: 10,000 from current 4,000

Source, Japanese sankei
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/politics/ne...8500010-n1.htm
It would be nice if they extended it to automobiles and real estate.
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by 5khours
It would be nice if they extended it to automobiles and real estate.
You've got some real estate there in your hand?
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by 5khours
It would be nice if they extended it to automobiles and real estate.
How many tourists (i.e. short-term visitors) are going to be legally buying a car or house?
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
How many tourists (i.e. short-term visitors) are going to be legally buying a car or house?
Ever heard of HAM ?
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 7:28 am
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If you take the UK as an example, non-UK domiciled ("non-doms") persons buy houses and pay less tax than residents. It's one of the reasons for the continuing boom in London property prices. I think it's a ****ing disaster, but that's how it is.
I think it's not out of the question for wealthy Taiwanese, Chinese etc. to want to buy a second home in Japan - whether by the sea, or near a ski resort, or onsen ... or, indeed, in Tokyo.
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Even getting 8% back won't make most all items in Japan a good deal compared to buying them elsewhere. Maybe this will slightly benefit duty-free shops at NRT and such, but that's about it.
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
How many tourists (i.e. short-term visitors) are going to be legally buying a car or house?
House - Quite a few. Car - I don't know. I'm not even sure you can buy a car if you don't have some form of longer term visa.

I think it's not out of the question for wealthy Taiwanese, Chinese etc. to want to buy a second home in Japan - whether by the sea, or near a ski resort, or onsen ... or, indeed, in Tokyo.
It's getting to be more and more common. If it were easier for a non-resident to borrow money, the demand would be huge.
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 5:49 pm
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The tax exemption program for non-Japanese visitors has a condition that tax exempt items to be consumed or used outside of Japan. Hence, tax for lodging or meals while visiting Japan is not eligible for tax exemption program. Along that line I think real estate purchase by non-Japanese will not be eligible for tax exemption under this program.

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Maybe this will slightly benefit duty-free shops at NRT and such, but that's about it.
I think by nature duty-free shops have no tax involved on sales made. I think duty-free shops at Japanese airports are not affected by consumption tax increase nor tax exemption program.

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Old Dec 5, 2013, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
Even getting 8% back won't make most all items in Japan a good deal compared to buying them elsewhere. Maybe this will slightly benefit duty-free shops at NRT and such, but that's about it.
Except for Made in Japan items. I have many female friends who will look forward to buying cheaper cosmetics!

However it still depends on whether the company wants to participate in the tax exemption scheme. One major company which I know doesn't is Muji (which I hope will change in future).
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Old Dec 5, 2013, 7:00 pm
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All I can say about duty free purchase at Japanese airports is liquors. I do not use cosmetics , also I have no interest in designers fashion items. I do not smoke so cigarettes and cigars are out. What I have seen at duty free shops at Japanese airports regarding price of liquors are about 10-30% less than what I typically pay at local discount liquor shops in the U.S.

I do not buy those expensive fancy liquors, I usually buy US$30-40 items so 10% cheaper is not much for my typical purchase at duty free shops.
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If you buy a car at auction in Japan then they add tax to your winning bid. A lot of the buyers there are foreign dealers buying for export. I wonder if they get bagged for sales tax too?

It's not a big deal at 5% but Japan is probably on a slippery slope to 25% Scandinavian rates. The only question is if the ponzi economy collapses before they reach that stage!
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Old Dec 7, 2013, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
If you buy a car at auction in Japan then they add tax to your winning bid. A lot of the buyers there are foreign dealers buying for export. I wonder if they get bagged for sales tax too?

It's not a big deal at 5% but Japan is probably on a slippery slope to 25% Scandinavian rates. The only question is if the ponzi economy collapses before they reach that stage!
No consumption tax on exports. Payment to the tax office is basically tax collected less tax paid. If it's negative you get a refund.
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I am no expert in tax, but for not to pay consumption tax up front at the time of purchase for items exported out of Japan, aren’t there have to be paperwork done prior to purchase? Also merchandise have to be arranged and handled in certain way from the time of purchase to the time merchandise physically leave Japan, which those will require prior arrangements before the purchase?

If not then purchaser have to pay consumption tax at the time of purchase then later file paperwork for refund of consumption tax? Even under that situation, merchandise had to be handled in a specific way from the time of purchase to the time the merchandise left Japan? If purchaser cannot show that a merchandise was handled in approved way between the purchase and time left Japan to ensure that merchandise was not used in Japan (no matter how short that period was) then consumption tax has to be paid?

Again, I am no tax expert but I heard something like this before. What I heard was that export/import agents do this every day. However, for an individual to buy a car in Japan, ship it out of Japan, and avoid paying consumption tax without help of export/import agents can be very difficult task in practice.
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Old Dec 7, 2013, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
I am no expert in tax, but for not to pay consumption tax up front at the time of purchase for items exported out of Japan, aren’t there have to be paperwork done prior to purchase? Also merchandise have to be arranged and handled in certain way from the time of purchase to the time merchandise physically leave Japan, which those will require prior arrangements before the purchase?

If not then purchaser have to pay consumption tax at the time of purchase then later file paperwork for refund of consumption tax? Even under that situation, merchandise had to be handled in a specific way from the time of purchase to the time the merchandise left Japan? If purchaser cannot show that a merchandise was handled in approved way between the purchase and time left Japan to ensure that merchandise was not used in Japan (no matter how short that period was) then consumption tax has to be paid?
I am checking government and other websites on this program.

JNTO #1
http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/ttp/sg/09-...E-Tax-fre.html
---I found a typical Japanese English mistake here. "More than 10,001 yen" should be "over 10,000 yen".

JNTO #2
Q: How do I handle tax exemption procedures?
http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/attractions/shopping/05.html

GoTokyo.org
Tax Free Measures and Procedures (Consumption Tax Exemption)
http://www.gotokyo.org/en/shopping/tax.html

Yahoo, Answers
Im a Tourist, As soon I leave Japan I can have the 5% Tax Refund of my Shopping Stuff..?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4155712AAA07Ik

Tripadvisor discussions
Home/Asia/Japan travel forum/Sales Tax
(OT, wow, I noticed that Japan forum has 42,000 topics/threads)
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...Tax-Japan.html

--edited to add
TV Tokyo column video
In Japanese. LAOX Ginza Duty Free Shop is featured. They introduced a passport scanner to automate paperwork.
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/mv/wbs/shindo/post_55394/

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