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Originally Posted by peloton
(Post 20499596)
For the hotel check in, they mostly know I am a Japan resident but they ALWAYS 'ask' if they can copy my ID.
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I think the trouble goes back to the authorities sending out a badly-worded request to hotels some years ago and hotels didn't really understand what the law required. Maybe deliberate, but more likely incompetent. Now, places seem to understand that the requirement is only for non-residents.
I don't get asked for ID for rooms I book myself as I assume they have my address, but when work books rooms I have been asked, though none has been needed when I said I was a resident.
Originally Posted by Zohar
(Post 18378499)
3.) As mentioned before, Japanese law requires hotels to check tourists' (read: people without physical addresses in Japan) passports to assist the police in tracking foreign visitors (for what reasons makes for another post). Japanese residents (people with Japanese addresses somewhere) only write down their name, address, and phone number like any Japanese citizen would. Japanese residents *never* need to show ID at a hotel; if the staff demands it, they are confused and you can remind them you are not a tourist. I've only had a problem once. Genuine tourists probably should show it, since it is the law (however silly). There is the small chance that somebody (not on FT, of course) would trash a room and disappear like a thief into the night, leaving the hotel with no recourse if they had no actual person to trace for seeking damages.
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I don't know what has happened with others who don't get asked, but this non-resident has been asked for his passport in every case of dozens of hotel stays all over Japan over the last 10 years. Never been stopped by police but always carry it and always have to show it at hotels.
As for telling an officer to f--off, I have a different perspective. After 30+ years in the business and several more as an academic in criminology-law enforcement, I know how tough the first few years are and just don't even think of deliberately being an adam henry to an officer just because I can. How stupid! It only takes a minute to show the pp, answer a couple of questions and part with a smile. 40 years ago I appreciated those who did the same, albeit in different circumstances. I realize the level of professionalism in Japanese police is rather lacking but still, why deliberately make someone's day worse just from encountering you? |
Originally Posted by joejones
(Post 20502335)
How do you generally book your hotels? I usually book through Rakuten and never get asked for ID, presumably because my Japanese address is listed on the reservation.
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Originally Posted by abmj-jr
(Post 20506318)
why deliberately make someone's day worse just from encountering you?
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Like the other residents here, I've been asked for a passport a few times when checking in, but after noting that I live here I've never been challenged or actually required to show a photo ID... it does help to write the address in Japanese on the ubiquitous check-in form (which asks you for information the hotel does, in almost all cases, already have...)
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Originally Posted by BalbC
(Post 20506081)
However, it gets silly as there is nothing to stop anyone just saying they are a resident and making up an address as hotels aren't supposed to check ID in those cases. So not a very sensible law. Japan is certainly not the only country to required ID for hotel check in and non-resident citizens could also be required to show ID in some countries.
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Originally Posted by jib71
(Post 20507679)
... So I'll ask "is this voluntary?" and decline to comply unless I have to...
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