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westcoastbmx Jan 25, 2012 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 17886416)
Park Hyatt is a favorite of many people here. You'll find much praise for the hotel itself. However, the airport access isn't great and the immediate surroundings are not lovely for walking.

For an equally luxurious experience with better airport access and a pleasant street scene on the doorstep, I might suggest the Peninsula. Walk from Tokyo station to the hotel then walk to Ginza for a bite to eat and to experience the atmosphere.

Thanks for this comment....I saw on the Park Hyatt website that it takes 80 minutes to get there from Narita and got a bit discouraged.. but The Pen is only 60 min away which makes it a better deal. We are also going to stay at the Pen in Bangkok so we can compare and contrast. Thanks again!

In Ginza are the restaurants/shops open late on Tuesday?

jib71 Jan 25, 2012 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by westcoastbmx (Post 17886611)
Thanks for this comment....I saw on the Park Hyatt website that it takes 80 minutes to get there from Narita and got a bit discouraged.. but The Pen is only 60 min away which makes it a better deal. We are also going to stay at the Pen in Bangkok so we can compare and contrast. Thanks again!

In Ginza are the restaurants/shops open late on Tuesday?

Many shops will be open until around 8.00pm. Restaurants later than that - some operate into the early hours. Take a look at the Ginza / Yurakucho / Marunouchi listings on http://www.bento.com/tf-rest.html

Take a look at train times on http://www.hyperdia.com to see the train times to Tokyo Station. And if you take a Narita Express train, take advantage of the SUICA + N'EX combination ticket: http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/suica-nex/

Even if you don't use any of the credit on the stored value card (SUICA) in your brief stay, just take it to be refunded. (There's an admin fee of a couple of hundred yen - it's still a good deal).

As Joe pointed out, you can make the early morning trip to see Tsukiji market relatively easily from Ginza. The Pen is a little further out, but you could get there and back fairly quickly by cab if it interests you.

westcoastbmx Jan 25, 2012 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 17887192)
Many shops will be open until around 8.00pm. Restaurants later than that - some operate into the early hours. Take a look at the Ginza / Yurakucho / Marunouchi listings on http://www.bento.com/tf-rest.html

Take a look at train times on http://www.hyperdia.com to see the train times to Tokyo Station. And if you take a Narita Express train, take advantage of the SUICA + N'EX combination ticket: http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/suica-nex/

Even if you don't use any of the credit on the stored value card (SUICA) in your brief stay, just take it to be refunded. (There's an admin fee of a couple of hundred yen - it's still a good deal).

As Joe pointed out, you can make the early morning trip to see Tsukiji market relatively easily from Ginza. The Pen is a little further out, but you could get there and back fairly quickly by cab if it interests you.

Wow you have been more than helpful! Thank you very much!! I will take advantage of that card for the Narita Express and will look into the Tsukiji market!

hailstorm Jan 25, 2012 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by westcoastbmx (Post 17886611)
Thanks for this comment....I saw on the Park Hyatt website that it takes 80 minutes to get there from Narita and got a bit discouraged.. but The Pen is only 60 min away which makes it a better deal. We are also going to stay at the Pen in Bangkok so we can compare and contrast. Thanks again!

In Ginza are the restaurants/shops open late on Tuesday?

Perhaps not Ginza, but The Peninsula is even closer to the Marunouchi banking district area, where many upscale restaurants are open well past midnight for their clientele.

joejones Jan 25, 2012 5:24 pm

Depends on your definition of "late." You'll find a lot of places open until midnight throughout the city, but very few open past that time other than fast food places.

Many sushi places near Tsukiji are open 24 hours; that's the best late-night culinary option in Tokyo, in my opinion.

lobsterdog Jan 28, 2012 3:59 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17887478)
...very few open past that time other than fast food places.

Actually Ginza has a lot of non-fast-food dining options open till at least two or three am. I would consider that "late."


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17887478)
Many sushi places near Tsukiji are open 24 hours; that's the best late-night culinary option in Tokyo, in my opinion.

There are a couple of Tsukiji branches of Zanmai that are open 24 hours - those are the only ones I know of. I wouldn't say that "many sushi places" in Tsukiji are open 24 hours.

5khours Jan 29, 2012 5:35 pm

You're getting really bad advice.

Roppongi is hopping until 5am. Everything else shuts down by around mid-night. Stay at the Roppongi Hyatt (not the Park Hyatt). Take the limousine bus directly to the hotel. Trust me. Every other post on this thread is wrong.

hailstorm Jan 29, 2012 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 17911334)
You're getting really bad advice.

Roppongi is hopping until 5am. Everything else shuts down by around mid-night. Stay at the Roppongi Hyatt (not the Park Hyatt). Take the limousine bus directly to the hotel. Trust me. Every other post on this thread is wrong.

If you're going to spend your only few hours in Japan in Roppongi, then what's the point of coming to Japan in the first place? :td:

joejones Jan 29, 2012 8:44 pm

Agreed. You would save a lot of money by just going to Tijuana instead.

5khours Jan 30, 2012 12:27 am

Well if you want a quiet dinner and to spend the night in your hotel room fine, but if you want to see what the city is like at night, Roppongi is the place to go. Tons of restaurants, bars, clubs. Young people on the street. Everything from seedy to very high end. If you want to see a bunch of drunk middle aged businessmen staggering home at midnight go to Ginza. If you want a night on the town go to Roppongi.

I don't get this Japan is all about sushi, temples and Akihabara thing. If I was a tourist, I'd be interested in seeing how the Japanese spend their time and have fun.

jib71 Jan 30, 2012 1:06 am

Deleted - Joe's answer is better.

joejones Jan 30, 2012 1:23 am


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 17912996)
Well if you want a quiet dinner and to spend the night in your hotel room fine, but if you want to spend your honeymoon getting hustled into strip clubs by Nigerians, Roppongi is the place to go.

There, I fixed it.

To be fair, they might not approach you (or might limit the hustling to "regular bars") if you are walking around as a couple...

5khours Jan 30, 2012 2:05 pm

Actually they passed a new ordinance and cleared them off the streets. They'll probably be back but anyway you can always just ignore them.

glbetrotter Jan 30, 2012 11:00 pm

So little time and so many things to do! Four Seasons Marunouchi, which was already mentioned, is absolutely spectacular, from being met at the platform to the hotel itself to being accompanied to Narita Express upon leaving. It is right next to the Tokyo train station, metro is right there too, and taxis are easy to get also. It is pricey but well worth it. Easily beats most other hotels in Tokyo for me (personal service, location, sublime food ...), even Park Hyatt (which is a short walk from Shinjuku station, but still a walk. You won't have time).

You can actually have a perfect night in Tokyo, short it might be. Arrive NRT, jump onto NRT express, be at Tokyo station at 6 or so, check in and refresh and hit the city at 7. Ginza, Omotesandō, or Roppongi if you are so inclined (too modern and touristy, but you can still make it there just to see).

Or a perfect kaiseki dinner in Kikunoi is Akasaka (say, at 7:30; you will need a reservation, any hotel will do it for you in advance; expensive but worth every penny), then walk through Roppongi and go to Ginza, come back to the hotel and enjoy it. Walk up early, take a taxi to Tsukiji market (whcih will be less than JPY 2,000 and 15-20 min at most; walk the market and have THE freshest sushi breakfast there -- omakase, of course, so no language needed), catch a cab to the hotel, and leave for NRT.

There is another often overlooked hotel, right at the Tokyo station, Metropolitain Hotel Marunouchi (right at the Yaesu exit, I think), which is not very expensive and very high quality. The rooms are smaller than at the FS, but you won't really care given that you need it only for a few hours to sleep.

You can also save on the food by eating in simpler places -- it all depends on you budget and desires.

In any case, enjoy! Tokyo station area would be my first choice (not Shinjuku). I have done layovers from a few hours to a day+ (and stayed in Tokyo for several days at a time), and this city never disappoints!

5khours Jan 31, 2012 11:53 am


Originally Posted by glbetrotter (Post 17919969)
So little time and so many things to do! Four Seasons Marunouchi, which was already mentioned, is absolutely spectacular, from being met at the platform to the hotel itself to being accompanied to Narita Express upon leaving. It is right next to the Tokyo train station, metro is right there too, and taxis are easy to get also. It is pricey but well worth it. Easily beats most other hotels in Tokyo for me (personal service, location, sublime food ...), even Park Hyatt (which is a short walk from Shinjuku station, but still a walk. You won't have time).

You can actually have a perfect night in Tokyo, short it might be. Arrive NRT, jump onto NRT express, be at Tokyo station at 6 or so, check in and refresh and hit the city at 7. Ginza, Omotesandō, or Roppongi if you are so inclined (too modern and touristy, but you can still make it there just to see).

Or a perfect kaiseki dinner in Kikunoi is Akasaka (say, at 7:30; you will need a reservation, any hotel will do it for you in advance; expensive but worth every penny), then walk through Roppongi and go to Ginza, come back to the hotel and enjoy it. Walk up early, take a taxi to Tsukiji market (whcih will be less than JPY 2,000 and 15-20 min at most; walk the market and have THE freshest sushi breakfast there -- omakase, of course, so no language needed), catch a cab to the hotel, and leave for NRT.

There is another often overlooked hotel, right at the Tokyo station, Metropolitain Hotel Marunouchi (right at the Yaesu exit, I think), which is not very expensive and very high quality. The rooms are smaller than at the FS, but you won't really care given that you need it only for a few hours to sleep.

You can also save on the food by eating in simpler places -- it all depends on you budget and desires.

In any case, enjoy! Tokyo station area would be my first choice (not Shinjuku). I have done layovers from a few hours to a day+ (and stayed in Tokyo for several days at a time), and this city never disappoints!

Not bad suggestions. If it was me I would probably do Ginza on the way to Kikunoi, fit in a massage at a nice spa (Olive in Roppongi is a 10 minute walk from Kikunoi) after dinner, hit a club (Feria 3 minute walk) at midnight and then go straight from there to Tsukiji. To be honest, I wouldn't even bother to check into a hotel.


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