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saclian Jan 15, 2012 4:37 am

Onsen with tattoo?
 
Have small tattoo on my foot. Does anyone know of an onsen in Tokyo (preferably Shibuya-area) where that might be ok?

LapLap Jan 15, 2012 4:54 am

If it's only a small tattoo why not use a silicone blister plaster like those from compeed? http://www.compeed.com

If you put it on to clean dry skin just before going to the sento/onsen it's very unlikely to come off.

jib71 Jan 15, 2012 5:16 am

I think people are likely to ignore a small tattoo on your foot. You might want to bring something to cover it if it does upset someone.

But what is your expectation of an onsen? There are a few possibilities
- places with very basic facilities, a bit like a public bath
- modern takes on the hot spring idea - like theme parks
- miniature urban approximations of what you'll find in the country
- western style spas (not really onsen but I list them because people assume onsen = spa)

kebosabi Jan 17, 2012 9:26 am

By tattoos, the Japanese onsens usually mean the artistic full body ones that the Japanese criminal underworld uses. Small tattoos like “I LUV MOM” or your military affiliation they could care less about it.

jerry a. laska Jan 17, 2012 10:49 am

Also Lap Lap's guide to Tokyo onsen (including reference to some tattoo restrictions is here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...kyo-onsen.html

hailstorm Jan 17, 2012 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by kebosabi (Post 17829821)
By tattoos, the Japanese onsens usually mean the artistic full body ones that the Japanese criminal underworld uses. Small tattoos like “I LUV MOM” or your military affiliation they could care less about it.

I agree. They could care less, which implies that they will all care at least a little bit in order to be able to care less than they already do. Which is true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCUsPnKD1gk

NWA_5479 Jan 23, 2012 9:36 am


Originally Posted by saclian (Post 17816807)
Have small tattoo on my foot. Does anyone know of an onsen in Tokyo (preferably Shibuya-area) where that might be ok?

A small tattoo on your foot should be fine. Often there will be a sign where you pay, and you could perhaps show your foot and see the response. FWIW, I have found the if your are foreigner-looking, you shouldn't have a problem with minor tattoos.

Allan38103 Jan 23, 2012 10:07 am


Originally Posted by hailstorm (Post 17832105)
I agree. They could care less, which implies that they will all care at least a little bit in order to be able to care less than they already do. Which is true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCUsPnKD1gk

What is the opposite of "Could Care Less"?

a. Could NOT care less?

b. Could care MORE?

c. I don't care.

jib71 Jan 23, 2012 10:36 am


Originally Posted by Allan38103 (Post 17870394)
What is the opposite of "Could Care Less"

I like this analysis:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawl...giveadamn.html

Usage changes. Some people find the changes hard to stomach. In this case, it's Brits (David Mitchell makes much the same point as Cleese, here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...0/language-usa). In another Flyertalk thread, it's mostly Americans complaining about Brekkie and other abbreviations that have become the norm in other parts of the world.

I'm a fairly sensitive soul when it comes to language, but in this case I could care less.

hailstorm Jan 23, 2012 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 17870599)
I'm a fairly sensitive soul when it comes to language, but in this case I could care less.

Sorry, that response just doesn't cut the mustard with me. ;)

But seriously, if people are made aware of what they are saying, I cannot fathom why they would continue saying something so completely nonsensical as "could care less".

jib71 Jan 23, 2012 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by hailstorm (Post 17872245)
Sorry, that response just doesn't cut the mustard with me. ;)

You mean the explanation in the article I linked to? I think it's pretty convincing, but ...
I have another theory, for which I haven't done any research - but I'll share it here for someone else to pick apart if they want to. It's possible that "I could care less" is a contraction of a longer phrase. For example "As if I could care less" ... or "I could care less, but I'd have to try very hard to".


Originally Posted by hailstorm (Post 17872245)
But seriously, if people are made aware of what they are saying, I cannot fathom why they would continue saying something so completely nonsensical as "could care less".

Meh. Everyday English is full of cr@p that makes no sense. One British example that used to bother me was when people said "same difference" but meant "the same" or "no different". It's ugly. It saves the speaker no time. It defies logic. But do I make a fuss about it? No. I could care less.


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