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jpatokal Dec 20, 2011 4:52 am

Passport validity requirement?
 
I'm planning a trip to Japan next spring-ish, but it turns out both my passports are expiring in September 2012 and I'm unlikely to be able to renew them before I leave. Now, I gather that Japan does not have the usual "passport must be valid for six months after entry" requirement, but I'm unable to find proof of this in writing -- can any enterprising FTer find some? Proving a negative isn't easy, with eg. Timatic simply silent on the issue.

ChrisLi Dec 20, 2011 5:14 am

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My dad was traveling with me with a passport having 4 months before expire. No question asked.

jib71 Dec 20, 2011 9:28 am


Originally Posted by jpatokal (Post 17659989)
both my passports are expiring in September 2012

Oscar at immigration: To have one passport expire may be regarded as a misfortune... for it to happen to both seems like carelessness.

Scifience Dec 20, 2011 4:16 pm

There definitely is not a 6-month or similar validity requirement, but I can't directly find proof of this from any "official" source either.

The closest I can find directly from the Japanese government is from a page aimed at Japanese citizens travelling abroad:
http://www.gov-online.go.jp/useful/a.../200807/3.html


世界の多くの国々では、日本と異なり、パスポートに一定以上の有効期間が残っていることを入国条件の一つと しています。

Unlike Japan, many countries require that a passport have at least a certain validity period remaining as one condition of entry.
This page from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs lists the requirements for entry into Japan for citizens of countries that do not require a visa, and there is no mention of anything other than a "valid passport."

There are also a number of less-official sources confirming this:
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/5768660.html
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp...il/q1116241116

jpatokal Dec 21, 2011 5:33 am

Thanks for the confirmation ^

beep88 Dec 21, 2011 11:29 am

There is no requirement that your passport must have X months of validity, except that the passport must be valid (for your stay) , if you don't need a visa to visit Japan.

The standard tourist stay is 90 days. If your passport is due to expire in less than 90 days at time of landing, you'll spend a little more time at the immigration counter as the officer must manually adjust the date on the stamp to shorten the number of days you are allowed to stay.

If Timatic doesn't say 6 month's validity(remains silent), that means there is no such requirement. There is also iatatravelcentre.com where you can enter the passport expiry date and it will tell you you are fine.

Ichinensei Dec 24, 2011 1:43 am

i don't think they have the six month limit..call the local japanese embassy or high com where you are. that is what i did but that was five years ago.

schoflyer Jan 7, 2012 5:00 pm

Call me crazy... Why don't you renew?

Steve M Jan 8, 2012 1:27 pm


I gather that Japan does not have the usual "passport must be valid for six months after entry" requirement, but I'm unable to find proof of this in writing -- can any enterprising FTer find some? Proving a negative isn't easy, with eg. Timatic simply silent on the issue.
Timatic is NOT silent on the issue. It rather clearly says:


Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid on arrival.
And that means exactly what it says it means: the passport must be valid on [the day of] arrival. There is no requirement that it be valid any further in the future than that.


Originally Posted by beep88 (Post 17668735)
The standard tourist stay is 90 days. If your passport is due to expire in less than 90 days at time of landing, you'll spend a little more time at the immigration counter as the officer must manually adjust the date on the stamp to shorten the number of days you are allowed to stay.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong on at least three counts:

- The length of stay granted to Japan is not dependent on validity of the passport on day of entry. There are some countries where this is true, but they'll be denoted in Timatic as "Passport must be valid for intended length of stay." Japan has no such designation or requirement.

- Since Fall of 2003, Japan has not used manual stamps in passports. They have a computer-generated sticker that they issue upon arrival and stick in your passport that has the type of entry granted and the duration. Any adjustment to the permitted length of stay because of passport validity would happen automatically in the computer.

- I can speak to all of the above with absolute certainty, as my most recent visit to Japan involved a passport with only 2 weeks of validity remaining. I was granted the standard 90-day stay, even though that would be 2.5 months past the passport's expiration.

Now, the question arises: "What happens if your passport expires while you're in Japan?" Well, for one, if you don't have a Permanent Resident Card, you immediately become a law-breaker, because you wouldn't have a valid passport which is required to be carried on your person at all times as a foreigner. Second, you won't be able to leave the country, as you can't pass through exit immigration at the airport without a valid passport, and if leaving by plane, the airline won't accept you for transport because of your lack of a valid passport.

The obvious solution to the above is: if your passport expires while you're in Japan, it's your responsibility to renew it with your embassy/consulate. To be squeaky clean legal, this would have to be done before it expires, but certainly must be done before you leave. But upon arrival, as long as it's valid on that date, you've met the requirements to be granted permission to land.

SingTel001 Jan 9, 2012 11:58 am

Easy answer. Ask Timatic.
http://tinyurl.com/84x2yba
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.

gnaget Jan 9, 2012 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by SingTel001 (Post 17779486)
Easy answer. Ask Timatic.
http://tinyurl.com/84x2yba
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.

This "Visitors not holding return/onward ticket could be refused entry" is an interesting statement. So this derives from IATA? I could not find anything about this on Japanese govt websites. "Could be" is also vague. Japan can deny entry to anyone they find suspicious, but the problem is not Japan immigration but the airline.

I have entered Japan about 10 times in the past year on tickets terminating in Japan without any problem on the following airlines: SK, ANA, UA, TG, SQ and TK.

However, last week, NZ refused to check me in without an onward ticket so I had to quickly buy a one way refundable online in the lobby at AKL. NZ is a pretty backward airline that does not have online check-in. I recall that UA once asked to disclose date of departure from Japan when I checked in online. But I am also recalling that I checked in in person with ANA, TG and SQ as well.

FYI, I have an official document from a Japanese government agency as a "get out of jail free card" in case I have any trouble due to my frequent entries, but it's all smiles so far. The immigration agents never ask for onward tickets.

jpatokal Jan 21, 2012 5:49 am


Originally Posted by schoflyer (Post 17768743)
Call me crazy... Why don't you renew?

Because I live 1000 km away from the nearest consulate or embassy and applications have to be made in person. :mad: As it happens, I'll be passing through said city on my way to Japan and applying for a passport there, but obviously it'll take X weeks to be ready.

joejones Jan 25, 2012 2:10 am


Originally Posted by gnaget (Post 17782509)
This "Visitors not holding return/onward ticket could be refused entry" is an interesting statement. So this derives from IATA? I could not find anything about this on Japanese govt websites.

The Japanese government websites are a mess when it comes to explaining how the landing process works at the airport.

It is clear that you need an onward ticket in order to change your status to "temporary visitor" if you are already in Japan under a different status. That may be the basis of Timatic suggesting that you need an onward ticket when you arrive in Japan.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/te.../Table3-1.html


Temporary Visitor

1. A ticket for boarding an airplane or a vessel to disembark Japan, or a written guarantee issued by a transport company.
2. A valid passport which enables the foreign national concerned to enter foreign countries out of Japan.
3. Documents certifying that the person concerned can defray all the expenses incurred during the stay in Japan.

gnaget Jan 25, 2012 8:27 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17882574)
The Japanese government websites are a mess when it comes to explaining how the landing process works at the airport.

It is clear that you need an onward ticket in order to change your status to "temporary visitor" if you are already in Japan under a different status. That may be the basis of Timatic suggesting that you need an onward ticket when you arrive in Japan.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/te.../Table3-1.html

I think I also saw it somewhere in conjunction with citizens of countries who require visas. They are more likely to overstay, I suppose, and are more like to have "funding" issues.

Nevertheless, I will be prudent going forward and book something. If anything to avoid problems with airlines like with NZ.

jib71 Jan 25, 2012 11:16 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17882574)
It is clear that you need an onward ticket in order to change your status to "temporary visitor" if you are already in Japan under a different status.

Heh. I nearly ended up in the gaijin gulag in Shimonoseki in precisely that situation. The immigration officer demanded to see my onward ticket after changing my status. Thanks dude.

I'm sure I've mentioned it in this forum before. (Having a post office account book that showed a healthy balance was my get out of jail card).

MegatopLover Sep 26, 2012 6:21 am

Is the information in this thread still correct?

An American friend is travelling to Japan (via Korea, in transit only, no entry) in late November for a six-day stay. His passport expires in early April, just over 5 months after his visit to Japan. OK?

I checked the Timatic resource linked above, which is on the Korean Air website. Since KE is the operating carrier, it looks like he's good to go.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, as it provides some measure of reassurance. any updates / reconfirmations will be most appreciated.

Steve M Sep 26, 2012 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by MegatopLover (Post 19386669)
An American friend is travelling to Japan (via Korea, in transit only, no entry) in late November for a six-day stay. His passport expires in early April, just over 5 months after his visit to Japan. OK?

I can't speak to what Korea requires of transit passengers, but Japan will be no problem. I entered Japan on a US passport that had less than 2 week's validity, and I left 3 days before it expired. IIRC, Japan doesn't even require the passport to be valid for the allowed length of stay or even the stated intended length of stay - as long as it's valid on the day of arrival, you're okay (if it expired before you left, you'd have to get it renewed through the US embassy or consulate before you could leave).

MegatopLover Sep 27, 2012 6:33 am

Thanks. Online info now is consistent with the info posted a year ago in this thread.

The Timatic resource on KE's website indicates that we can transit through OR enter Korea with a valid passport (same terms as Japan, implying no minimum validity). So if the transit stop is long enough, we may be able to step in and step out of Korea to get some passport stamps.

JDiver Sep 27, 2012 7:22 am

Again - try using Timatic rather than asking people on FlyerTalk. Link. Much more efficacious and likely to be correct, and it allows one to enter citizenship or resident alien of ___, as well as origin, destination and via third country information. FT is a great source for suggestions, maybe not so much for hard data when one is dealing with things governmental or when passport and visa requirements may change at any time.


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Originally Posted by MegatopLover (Post 19386669)
Is the information in this thread still correct?

An American friend is travelling to Japan (via Korea, in transit only, no entry) in late November for a six-day stay. His passport expires in early April, just over 5 months after his visit to Japan. OK?

I checked the Timatic resource linked above, which is on the Korean Air website. Since KE is the operating carrier, it looks like he's good to go.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, as it provides some measure of reassurance. any updates / reconfirmations will be most appreciated.


armagebedar Sep 27, 2012 6:24 pm

JDiver's link should point here: http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv...ex.jsp?lang=en

MegatopLover Sep 30, 2012 9:50 am

Thank you, folks.

I asked people on FlyerTalk because I wanted first-hand experiences, in addition to what I found on Timatic linked upthread (you will note that my post seeking FT experiences indicated I'd already checked Timatic). Of course, FT is a great place to find links to resources like Timatic. I'm grateful for the links. And FT is the perfect place to find a clarifying discussion of what the results mean, particularly in light of regular travellers' experience in other Asian countries that require 6 months' validity.

JDiver Sep 30, 2012 2:04 pm

No worries, enjoy! I point out the disclaimer because our experiences may be germane, but if one of us got allowed in to Japan when we actually may be in violation of passport requirements, medications allowed in the US but not there, that of course does not mean another will be cut slack. I have personally seen persons detained at NRT, for example, who were found in violation of one thing or another for some hours in uncomfortable circumstances. Under the cultural codes, Japanese are prone to being sticklers.

It would be a pain in the shiri indeed to be detained for hour upon hour and then frog-marched to a departing flight with a new ticket one had to purchase on one's own dime.

5khours Oct 5, 2012 7:41 am

Also, it's very easy to get a new passport issued at the U.S. Embassy. If you need it to travel right away, they'll issue it in a couple of hours. It's easier than renewing in the U.S.


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