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#46
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Sorry I wasn't being clear - I did go to the Sakura Business Class lounge in the main building, and the lounge dragon took me to one side and said "Because it's very crowded in the business lounge, would you mind using the First Lounge upstairs". So I did go to the First Lounge. Physical differences - I guess there were lockers and better separate work/chilling/dining areas in the First Lounge? I had wanted to use the First Class showers but unfortunately they were oversubscribed. First food is still buffet service, I didn't realise see a huge difference from what is normally served in the Business Lounge.
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Sorry I wasn't being clear - I did go to the Sakura Business Class lounge in the main building, and the lounge dragon took me to one side and said "Because it's very crowded in the business lounge, would you mind using the First Lounge upstairs". So I did go to the First Lounge. Physical differences - I guess there were lockers and better separate work/chilling/dining areas in the First Lounge? I had wanted to use the First Class showers but unfortunately they were oversubscribed. First food is still buffet service, I didn't realise see a huge difference from what is normally served in the Business Lounge.
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The first class lounge upstairs is a bit of let down. Probably the least appealing of them. Buffet items and drinks are the same, but no sushi bar. In the satellite F lounge they have Laurent-Perrier champagne in addition to the main lounge options. Though still no sushi bar.
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so bringing old thread to life, i'm guessing Japan Airlines a lot more conservative with their op-up policies? Unlike CX who always tend to over-sell if upper cabin is available, anacdotally I hear much less stories of JAL op-ups.
have dilenma of upselling my ticket to PEY as I need to extend trip duration HKG-HND... but cost of upsell is more than HKG-NRT on sale fare (on E01 787 equipment) so just thinking maybe I purchase another ticket to fly back/forth (back to back connecting in HK) with @Hope@ maybe Y=>J is possible (i'm OWE)
have dilenma of upselling my ticket to PEY as I need to extend trip duration HKG-HND... but cost of upsell is more than HKG-NRT on sale fare (on E01 787 equipment) so just thinking maybe I purchase another ticket to fly back/forth (back to back connecting in HK) with @Hope@ maybe Y=>J is possible (i'm OWE)
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so bringing old thread to life, i'm guessing Japan Airlines a lot more conservative with their op-up policies? Unlike CX who always tend to over-sell if upper cabin is available, anacdotally I hear much less stories of JAL op-ups.
have dilenma of upselling my ticket to PEY as I need to extend trip duration HKG-HND... but cost of upsell is more than HKG-NRT on sale fare (on E01 787 equipment) so just thinking maybe I purchase another ticket to fly back/forth (back to back connecting in HK) with @Hope@ maybe Y=>J is possible (i'm OWE)
have dilenma of upselling my ticket to PEY as I need to extend trip duration HKG-HND... but cost of upsell is more than HKG-NRT on sale fare (on E01 787 equipment) so just thinking maybe I purchase another ticket to fly back/forth (back to back connecting in HK) with @Hope@ maybe Y=>J is possible (i'm OWE)
But I would not hold my breath for Hong Kong. Especially not as OWE, the Hong Kong flights are usually crazy in terms of the number of JAL status members on board.
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They do oversell the cabins. I have had a good streak of upgrades on the Ho Chi Minh City flights recently.
But I would not hold my breath for Hong Kong. Especially not as OWE, the Hong Kong flights are usually crazy in terms of the number of JAL status members on board.
But I would not hold my breath for Hong Kong. Especially not as OWE, the Hong Kong flights are usually crazy in terms of the number of JAL status members on board.
anyways i'm happy to fly on the fare paid and get First class lounge at NRT... haven't been to NRT F-lounge before... it's not a trip i wanna do, but the cost of upselling my V fare to "E" or "M" fare (>1week) is more than buying new sale fare to Narita... funny days and games...
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thanks color. I just wasn't sure if JAL was same as Qantas where op-ups are miracle act of God situation. I get a feeling for NRT flight in Xmas (735/736 combo) it's a leisure route... also with 148 Y seats only, flying on Sunday morning Xmas + Friday evening Xmas I doubt this will be too elite heavy.
anyways i'm happy to fly on the fare paid and get First class lounge at NRT... haven't been to NRT F-lounge before... it's not a trip i wanna do, but the cost of upselling my V fare to "E" or "M" fare (>1week) is more than buying new sale fare to Narita... funny days and games...
anyways i'm happy to fly on the fare paid and get First class lounge at NRT... haven't been to NRT F-lounge before... it's not a trip i wanna do, but the cost of upselling my V fare to "E" or "M" fare (>1week) is more than buying new sale fare to Narita... funny days and games...
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thanks color. I just wasn't sure if JAL was same as Qantas where op-ups are miracle act of God situation. I get a feeling for NRT flight in Xmas (735/736 combo) it's a leisure route... also with 148 Y seats only, flying on Sunday morning Xmas + Friday evening Xmas I doubt this will be too elite heavy.
anyways i'm happy to fly on the fare paid and get First class lounge at NRT... haven't been to NRT F-lounge before... it's not a trip i wanna do, but the cost of upselling my V fare to "E" or "M" fare (>1week) is more than buying new sale fare to Narita... funny days and games...
anyways i'm happy to fly on the fare paid and get First class lounge at NRT... haven't been to NRT F-lounge before... it's not a trip i wanna do, but the cost of upselling my V fare to "E" or "M" fare (>1week) is more than buying new sale fare to Narita... funny days and games...
#55
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yeah just realized its 787 900 with skywider II... even better. i booked for 17dec and 23dec eventually... on 23 dec only had 1 remaining seat to assign on ASR so i am hopeful i can offer data point if as OWE whether or not op=ups happen.. will report back
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Open seats is a very bad indicator for booking levels on JAL. They block a lot of seats until OLCI, and a further bunch for airport control. An almost full seat map at booking can still be a fairly empty cabin.
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If your goal is to maximize your chance of op-up, then just fly with CX if you don't mind their service and product.
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i really despise cathay pathetic. i would do anything to avoid them.... besides i think Jal skywider 2 is a superb product and wanna sit on it over CX PEY.
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no. i am firm believer of flying in the cabin paid for....anything else is nice of course but wouldnt fly CX just to "increase" op up chances...
i really despise cathay pathetic. i would do anything to avoid them.... besides i think Jal skywider 2 is a superb product and wanna sit on it over CX PEY.
i really despise cathay pathetic. i would do anything to avoid them.... besides i think Jal skywider 2 is a superb product and wanna sit on it over CX PEY.
Normally I would just connect in TYO even when I have to go to Osaka. But I had to choose the direct flight this time because of the last minute change of my schedule. Pretty ironic that I've never been opup'ed on any JL's Japan-HKG flights and CX upgraded me the first time I flown with them between Japan and HKG
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I flew HND-HKG recently on an Avios PE award ticket and was upgraded me to business as a CX DM - apparently PE was full.
I've pretty much stopped flying CX to / from HND this year because the food is so bad in PE and I prefer the slightly earlier flight to HND (JL26 leaves about an hour earlier than CX542)
I've pretty much stopped flying CX to / from HND this year because the food is so bad in PE and I prefer the slightly earlier flight to HND (JL26 leaves about an hour earlier than CX542)