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JAL "Overnight transit pass" at NGO / Nagoya airport

Old Jun 19, 22, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
Oh, that's troubling. Thanks for the heads up. Well..it is an August flight. Not sure what I would do if that is canceled. If I couldn't overnight in NRT, maybe I would have to fly to elsewhere in Asia where I could overnight (Seoul? Bangkok?), then back to Taiwan the next day?
JAL has not confirmed its schedule to Taiwan in Aug. Current schedule only valid till 31JUL, and it is true North America-NRT-Taiwan is quite impossible before then on JL. Check https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/ for updates.
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Old Jun 19, 22, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
No, besides the mistake in quarantine period, not everyone can enter Taiwan. You need to be citizen, PR, or hold special visa.
Thanks- stand correceted- business travel is allowed with "essentially" a 7 day quarantine.
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Old Jun 19, 22, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
JAL has not confirmed its schedule to Taiwan in Aug. Current schedule only valid till 31JUL, and it is true North America-NRT-Taiwan is quite impossible before then on JL. Check https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/ for updates.
wow..had no idea this whole "confirmed" business.

Excellent link.

I can see why the China ones are suspended...given all the lockdowns there.

Maybe they're gauging sales figures?

I mean we're 1.5 months out...it should be confirmed unless outright border closure. People make plans.
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Old Jun 20, 22, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
wow..had no idea this whole "confirmed" business.

Excellent link.

I can see why the China ones are suspended...given all the lockdowns there.

Maybe they're gauging sales figures?

I mean we're 1.5 months out...it should be confirmed unless outright border closure. People make plans.
I think it depends on if we still keep the 3+4 quarantine in Taiwan and cap arrival pax at 25000 per week by Aug. If the rules are further relaxed in Jul. and by Aug. tourism will be back, I am confident JL will add more flight. Whether this will happen is quite unclear at this point.

I assume you follow news in Taiwan. Rules are changing every month.
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Old Jun 20, 22, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
I think it depends on if we still keep the 3+4 quarantine in Taiwan and cap arrival pax at 25000 per week by Aug. If the rules are further relaxed in Jul. and by Aug. tourism will be back, I am confident JL will add more flight. Whether this will happen is quite unclear at this point.

I assume you follow news in Taiwan. Rules are changing every month.
Follow as needed. All I see right now is 3+4 which started June 15th, then, potentially 0+7 in Sept.

If they were to move up the 0+7 to August...that would be grrreat! But I'm not counting on that.

Winter FLU season doesn't start until late October or November. The fact that Taiwan is having issues in "summer" is indicative of something else (But that's another story)...but as summer progresses, cases/deaths/whatever should continue to drop - whether that persuades them to accelerate 0+7 or whatever...who knows. But I doubt it. I just read re-evaluation after (2) 14-day cycles = 1 month from June 15th. Thus July 15th. How fast can they make a decision and implement it?

Really...they just need to scrap it entirely. What purpose does it serve now? Just saving face, or trying to. Or Taiwanese cowardliness/Asian (or Chinese) paternalism. COVID has revealed the true emotional nature of many countries / groups / people....for that I guess I'm thankful.

U see Travel Sherpa Map?

https://apply.joinsherpa.com/map?aff...language=en-US

also:

https://www.traveloffpath.com/egypt-...ving-tourists/

66 countries have dropped ALL entry requirements.

As for Asia - which is much slower...Thailand is almost there. South Korea is closer to getting rid of it all. They've dropped quarantine for anyone.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/thaila...uirements-yet/
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Old Jun 22, 22, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
Can ignore this. I've rerouted to avoid internal JAPAN flights and NGO altogether. SEA-NRT-TPE.
OP, how did you accomplish this? Did you ask JAL to fix it for you or did you find availability? Currently in the same position myself, JL rebooked me with a NRT/HND connection
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Old Jun 22, 22, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
Oh, that's troubling. Thanks for the heads up. Well..it is an August flight. Not sure what I would do if that is canceled. If I couldn't overnight in NRT, maybe I would have to fly to elsewhere in Asia where I could overnight (Seoul? Bangkok?), then back to Taiwan the next day?
Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
JAL has not confirmed its schedule to Taiwan in Aug. Current schedule only valid till 31JUL, and it is true North America-NRT-Taiwan is quite impossible before then on JL. Check https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/ for updates.
The Aug. TPE schedule is out: https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/

There are no changes. The only NRT-TPE flight is on Thu. morning, so I believe no North American-NRT flights can make the connection, as long as overnight transit remains impossible at NRT. The only option is still the overnight transit via HND, but JL doesn't serve SEA-HND.

If you need to re-route and have a domestic AA flight prior to the JL flight to HND for an overnight transit, please take note of my recent horrible experience: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34212466-post236.html. I don't know if AS would have the same problem.
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Old Jun 22, 22, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
The Aug. TPE schedule is out: https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/

There are no changes. The only NRT-TPE flight is on Thu. morning, so I believe no North American-NRT flights can make the connection, as long as overnight transit remains impossible at NRT. The only option is still the overnight transit via HND, but JL doesn't serve SEA-HND.

If you need to re-route and have a domestic AA flight prior to the JL flight to HND for an overnight transit, please take note of my recent horrible experience: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34212466-post236.html. I don't know if AS would have the same problem.
After reading the story, I am so glad I am driving to NYC from DC for my JL flight this weekend.
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Old Jun 22, 22, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
The Aug. TPE schedule is out: https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2022/inter/220801_06/

There are no changes. The only NRT-TPE flight is on Thu. morning, so I believe no North American-NRT flights can make the connection, as long as overnight transit remains impossible at NRT. The only option is still the overnight transit via HND, but JL doesn't serve SEA-HND.

If you need to re-route and have a domestic AA flight prior to the JL flight to HND for an overnight transit, please take note of my recent horrible experience: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34212466-post236.html. I don't know if AS would have the same problem.
Yes, I saw that - thanks to checking the link u provided. I've already called Alaska and fixed my flights - so to speak. Had a really good Alaska agent. Now I do have an overnight in HND, out of LAX. Business all the way now though. I'm also holding a SEA-TPE on EVA direct at the moment, but in economy.

12 hours in EVA economy, or JAL business w/ overnight in HND? (35 hours total)

At first glance, I think most would take the 12 hours in EVA economy. And I'm still thinking about it. But, in EVA Econ I would have to wear my mask all the time pretty much, and I hate wearing masks. Would also have to check in to the quarantine hotel earlier, which costs more, and I'm still in a small space.

I would like to try JAL Sky Suite (Granted I can do that on the return flight, which is now routed through Honolulu! No overnight required - though I may). I've determined I can spend most of my time in HND at airport lounges...so I can just read a book. Maybe get some shut eye on a massage chair? Ideally the HND transit hotel opens, but I'm not counting on that.

The downside, is more segments. More risk of cancellation or delay (especially SEA-LAX). More baggage risk (Though as a business ticket, that's less) Though looks like most delays/cancels happening elsewhere on FlightAware.

EVA also flies to TPE. Now I'm going to TSA - so some time/$$ savings there - however minimal.

Originally Posted by flyingmusicianlax View Post
OP, how did you accomplish this? Did you ask JAL to fix it for you or did you find availability? Currently in the same position myself, JL rebooked me with a NRT/HND connection
I changed it online...but since the NRt-TPE flight I had was cancelled, I just called in and a great agent fixed it for me - now all HND, no more NRT. The auto fix originally had my connecting flight depart before I arrived in NRT. Hahahaha. Maybe JAL has some time travel device on their aircraft now. New invention.
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Old Jun 22, 22, 11:54 pm
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Well, this doesn't bode well for my awards I just booked for November DFW-HND-TSA and TSA-HND-LAX. I thought that I lucked out in finding availability on JL J via HND to TSA (it's such a novelty to me to arrive at TSA from the US when I've been arriving via TPE for as long as I can remember), but perhaps I need to start keeping an eye on nonstop services to reduce the risk of a cancellation that would force me to overnight at HND.
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Old Jun 23, 22, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
Yes, I saw that - thanks to checking the link u provided.
For everyone's reference, TPEJL also published a document specifically for the TPE/TSA service till end of Aug.: https://sabretn.com.tw/admin/fileupl...0220623JL1.pdf

Originally Posted by EqualOpp View Post
I've already called Alaska and fixed my flights - so to speak. Had a really good Alaska agent. Now I do have an overnight in HND, out of LAX. Business all the way now though. I'm also holding a SEA-TPE on EVA direct at the moment, but in economy.

12 hours in EVA economy, or JAL business w/ overnight in HND? (35 hours total)

At first glance, I think most would take the 12 hours in EVA economy. And I'm still thinking about it. But, in EVA Econ I would have to wear my mask all the time pretty much, and I hate wearing masks. Would also have to check in to the quarantine hotel earlier, which costs more, and I'm still in a small space.

I would like to try JAL Sky Suite (Granted I can do that on the return flight, which is now routed through Honolulu! No overnight required - though I may). I've determined I can spend most of my time in HND at airport lounges...so I can just read a book. Maybe get some shut eye on a massage chair? Ideally the HND transit hotel opens, but I'm not counting on that.
Likely, the lounge will only be closed for 5 hours in between, although lounge hours are always subject to change: https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/inter/200716/

Does one not need to wear mask all the time on JL's J cabin? [EDIT: Never mind, I saw the discussion in another thread.]
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