NRT-YVR and NRT-SAN will get SKY SUITE upgrade in FY2019
Oct 29, 2018, 7:27 am
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Oct 30, 2018, 2:43 am
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Oct 30, 2018, 3:04 am
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Oct 30, 2018, 3:46 am
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Oct 30, 2018, 7:57 pm
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i just noticed that this morning when my award flight finally ticketed and I could reserve seats. I was expecting the flat neo, but something didn’t look right on the seat map as the first block of economy finished at row 26, rather than row 29. A quick look at the JAL website confirmed that the layout and that the aircraft is fitted with the SS seats in J. A quick check on Expert Flyer showed that the change over occurs at the end of March/beginning of April. One thing I did notice though was that all window seats in the front cabin are blocked for JAL passengers with status. On the old neo config, only rows 1 and 3 were blocked.
Dec 27, 2018, 3:39 pm
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NRT-YVR is showing lie-flat at this time via the JAL website(dummy booking) and expert flyer for all dates I checked in March and February of 2019.
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
Edit: see below.
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
Edit: see below.
Last edited by gdam22; Dec 28, 2018 at 4:45 pm
Dec 27, 2018, 4:31 pm
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NRT-YVR is showing lie-flat at this time via the JAL website(dummy booking) and expert flyer for all dates I checked in March and February of 2019.
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
Dec 27, 2018, 5:02 pm
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NRT-YVR is showing lie-flat at this time via the JAL website(dummy booking) and expert flyer for all dates I checked in March and February of 2019.
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
They have the 8 row configuration(5 actual rows of seats) with 6 across shown on seatguru as V-3. None of the flights showed the 10 row configuration(7 actual rows of seats) with the Neo-Seats.
The corresponding economy section also matches the layout of V-3.
I did book a date in March and was able to indeed book "lie flat" sky suite. However, the booking now reads "flat neo". Which of course, is the old seat..but the seat map is still showing the new map.
Is there another configuration of the neo that's not on seatguru? Have they simply not updated the coding on their website for this route?
Basically TL;DR: They have the "new" business/economy lay-out when you book and select your seat(v-3 on Seatuguru) which indicates sky suite but the website is still labeling the route as "lay-flat neo".
I guess I'll find out. :-)
Also seatguru information can be very dated especially on some Asian carriers. You can check JAL's official seat maps here: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/5931/seatmap/seatmap.html
Just FYI, all shell flat neo configurations are now J30, so no more J42 non-lie flat.
Dec 28, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Dec 28, 2018, 4:36 pm
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JAL's new lie-flat SS8 configuration looks REALLY alike the old J30 flat-neo configuration. The only ways you can (easily) tell if it is the new SS8 is to check the economy section -- the new SS8 will NOT have rows 27-29.
Also seatguru information can be very dated especially on some Asian carriers. You can check JAL's official seat maps here: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/5931/seatmap/seatmap.html
Just FYI, all shell flat neo configurations are now J30, so no more J42 non-lie flat.
Also seatguru information can be very dated especially on some Asian carriers. You can check JAL's official seat maps here: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/5931/seatmap/seatmap.html
Just FYI, all shell flat neo configurations are now J30, so no more J42 non-lie flat.
Guess I'll see if I can switch the route to a lie flat route.
Last edited by gdam22; Dec 28, 2018 at 5:18 pm
Jan 7, 2019, 2:40 pm
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Question for those of you who have travelled in the NEO. Do you think it's worth it to make the following change to get the Apex suite instead?
Instead of NRT/YVR/SEA, I would land in NRT, transfer over to HND, then go SFO/SEA. Arrival time in SEA is 1 hour later on the 2nd itinerary, but layover time is actually 2 hours less stateside.
I'd have 4 Hours and 10 minutes to make the transfer, so could be a little tight if delayed, but not bad. Downside is I have to go through customs, collect baggage, re-check baggage in HND.
Not having experienced the difference between the 2 seat experiences, would it be worth it to you? Is the APEX that much better in terms of privacy/sleep to be worth it?
Thanks.
(alternatively, I could wait to see if NRT/LAX opens up, but it's not currently with availability).
Instead of NRT/YVR/SEA, I would land in NRT, transfer over to HND, then go SFO/SEA. Arrival time in SEA is 1 hour later on the 2nd itinerary, but layover time is actually 2 hours less stateside.
I'd have 4 Hours and 10 minutes to make the transfer, so could be a little tight if delayed, but not bad. Downside is I have to go through customs, collect baggage, re-check baggage in HND.
Not having experienced the difference between the 2 seat experiences, would it be worth it to you? Is the APEX that much better in terms of privacy/sleep to be worth it?
Thanks.
(alternatively, I could wait to see if NRT/LAX opens up, but it's not currently with availability).
Jan 7, 2019, 3:54 pm
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When are you flying?
For me, I would say no.
The transfer between airports is not complex even with luggage. Just take the bus, they'll take you door to door, and are quite reliable.
Alternatively, trains will most likely include a change, and will for sure include brining your luggage on commuter trains with linited luggage space.
But all in all, not worth the hassle for me.
For me, I would say no.
The transfer between airports is not complex even with luggage. Just take the bus, they'll take you door to door, and are quite reliable.
Alternatively, trains will most likely include a change, and will for sure include brining your luggage on commuter trains with linited luggage space.
But all in all, not worth the hassle for me.
Jan 7, 2019, 8:31 pm
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If you've never had the Apex Suite then I think it's worth it. Sleep comfort and privacy are worlds apart. Try and get window side for the Suite- acres more room and privacy.
I've done the SFO to HND many times and the YVR to NRT route last March.
I've done the SFO to HND many times and the YVR to NRT route last March.
Jan 7, 2019, 11:48 pm
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Question for those of you who have travelled in the NEO. Do you think it's worth it to make the following change to get the Apex suite instead?
Instead of NRT/YVR/SEA, I would land in NRT, transfer over to HND, then go SFO/SEA. Arrival time in SEA is 1 hour later on the 2nd itinerary, but layover time is actually 2 hours less stateside.
I'd have 4 Hours and 10 minutes to make the transfer, so could be a little tight if delayed, but not bad. Downside is I have to go through customs, collect baggage, re-check baggage in HND.
Not having experienced the difference between the 2 seat experiences, would it be worth it to you? Is the APEX that much better in terms of privacy/sleep to be worth it?
Thanks.
(alternatively, I could wait to see if NRT/LAX opens up, but it's not currently with availability).
Instead of NRT/YVR/SEA, I would land in NRT, transfer over to HND, then go SFO/SEA. Arrival time in SEA is 1 hour later on the 2nd itinerary, but layover time is actually 2 hours less stateside.
I'd have 4 Hours and 10 minutes to make the transfer, so could be a little tight if delayed, but not bad. Downside is I have to go through customs, collect baggage, re-check baggage in HND.
Not having experienced the difference between the 2 seat experiences, would it be worth it to you? Is the APEX that much better in terms of privacy/sleep to be worth it?
Thanks.
(alternatively, I could wait to see if NRT/LAX opens up, but it's not currently with availability).
Jan 9, 2019, 8:44 pm
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Hi!
First time posting here. Super excited about my YVR-NRT-HKG trip. I'll be flying the JL 17 in mid-April. How likely do you think it will be with a sky suite?
If not, should I switch my reward redemption to an outbound from SEA-NRT-HKG?
First time posting here. Super excited about my YVR-NRT-HKG trip. I'll be flying the JL 17 in mid-April. How likely do you think it will be with a sky suite?
If not, should I switch my reward redemption to an outbound from SEA-NRT-HKG?